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« on: September 03, 2008, 04:04:28 PM »
Top line, with Obama leading all three. Iowa was taken 8/31-9/2, which means entirely after the Palin announcement but before the RNC. Didn't look at the others but presume the same.

MN: 55%-40%
IA: 53%-41%
OH: 47%-45%

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/new_polls_have_obama_running_s.php

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 04:05:31 PM »
Considering Obama's bounce, Ohio is definitley a state that could help Republicans once again. After all, Obama lost by 10 pts in the "close" primary, and it is a rather conservative state.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 04:22:16 PM »
CNNs state polls are usually pretty shaky at best. I have a hard time buying Obama is leading Iowa by 13.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 04:22:28 PM »
Quote from: McCainforPrez on September 03, 2008, 04:05:31 PM
Considering Obama's bounce, Ohio is definitley a state that could help Republicans once again. After all, Obama lost by 10 pts in the "close" primary, and it is a rather conservative state.

If you cite all of the CNN polls together, Obama is doing better in Ohio than he is nationwide.

Of course, CNN's quality of polling...
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 04:24:40 PM »
Quote from: McCainforPrez on September 03, 2008, 04:05:31 PM
Considering Obama's bounce, Ohio is definitley a state that could help Republicans once again. After all, Obama lost by 10 pts in the "close" primary, and it is a rather conservative state.

Obama had no bounce, according to CNN.

Remember that poll you righties were flaunting a few days ago? The one where you guys said "OMG OBAMA GOT NO CONVENTION BOUNCE LOLZ".

That was a CNN poll.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 05:08:40 PM »
How can CNN have such a close national race but have such ridiculous state numbers?

Something isn't adding up here.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 06:21:24 PM »
Quote from: RowanBrandon on September 03, 2008, 05:08:40 PM
How can CNN have such a close national race but have such ridiculous state numbers?

Something isn't adding up here.

Maybe McCain has 90% of the vote in Texas?
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 06:50:42 PM »
and a lot more in Alaska now......
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 06:53:55 PM »
Maybe the state numbers don't make sense in comparison to the national numbers because CNN sucks at polling?

Obama probably has high single-digit leads in MN and IA right now, along with a 3-5 point lead in Ohio.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2008, 07:45:08 PM »
Something farted here.....sorry ...
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 08:07:53 PM »
On the upside it got CNN to get Minnesota and Iowa off of its tossup list.  Minnesota being a tossup, given the polling, is simply ridiculous.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2008, 08:58:21 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on September 03, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
Minnesota being a tossup, given the polling, is simply ridiculous.

It was ON the toss-up list?

Actually, I think it is probably a reasonable result.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2008, 09:13:07 PM »
Quote from: J. J. on September 03, 2008, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Lunar on September 03, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
Minnesota being a tossup, given the polling, is simply ridiculous.

It was ON the toss-up list?

Actually, I think it is probably a reasonable result.



CNN has had Minnesota on the tossup list all year.  Check out the recent "TV Maps" thread on the campaign strategy subforum.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2008, 09:28:08 PM »
CNN never did well in state polls but that is beside the point.

NO polls are worth a crap right now.  Mason-Dixon wouldn't mean a thing now.  I'll start looking at polls two weeks after the Republican Convention.  Get the convention bumps out of the way.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2008, 11:24:12 PM »
Only Ohio didn't suck.
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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2008, 11:27:32 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on September 03, 2008, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: J. J. on September 03, 2008, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Lunar on September 03, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
Minnesota being a tossup, given the polling, is simply ridiculous.

It was ON the toss-up list?

Actually, I think it is probably a reasonable result.



CNN has had Minnesota on the tossup list all year.  Check out the recent "TV Maps" thread on the campaign strategy subforum.

I was being sarcastic.  Smiley  It never should have been.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2008, 12:13:51 AM »
Quote from: Your Dear Leader on September 03, 2008, 06:21:24 PM
Quote from: RowanBrandon on September 03, 2008, 05:08:40 PM
How can CNN have such a close national race but have such ridiculous state numbers?

Something isn't adding up here.

Maybe McCain has 90% of the vote in Texas?

or it could just be that CNN is the new ARG Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 04:25:03 PM »
Quote from: brittain33 on September 03, 2008, 04:04:28 PM
Top line, with Obama leading all three. Iowa was taken 8/31-9/2, which means entirely after the Palin announcement but before the RNC. Didn't look at the others but presume the same.

MN: 55%-40%
IA: 53%-41%
OH: 47%-45%

Its Obama 55-40 in Iowa, 53-41 in MN. Thats what was on TV yesterday and thats how its entered in the state polls section here.


The state makes up 0.2% of the population. It has zero effect on the national numbers. Although I agree that McCain is doing better in Alaska now.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2008, 08:31:56 PM »
Quote from: RowanBrandon on September 03, 2008, 05:08:40 PM
How can CNN have such a close national race but have such ridiculous state numbers?

Something isn't adding up here.

Because CNN is a junk polling outfit? - Just a wild stab in the dark, I don't know much about polls actually.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2008, 12:36:04 PM »
Database links:

Ohio: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php?action=indpoll&id=3920080902022

MN: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php?action=indpoll&id=2720080902022

IA: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php?action=indpoll&id=1920080902022
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