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« on: August 31, 2004, 01:31:21 AM »

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=745


Zogby.com -August 30

Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders “Consciously”
Failed To Act On 9-11; 66% Call For New Probe of
Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s
Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals

(Utica, NY) - On the eve of the Republican National
Convention, half (50%) of New York City residents and
two in four (41%) of New York citizens overall say
that some US leaders "knew in advance that attacks
were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that
they consciously failed to act," according to the poll
conducted by Zogby International. The poll of New York
residents was conducted from Tuesday August 24 through
Thursday August 26, 2004. Overall results have a
margin of sampling error of +/-3.5... (more...)

(The poll was released on August 30, 2 PM EST, Updates coming soon...)

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2004, 02:55:46 AM »

AArgh!!! Bush fires!!! HELP!!!
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2004, 06:36:06 AM »

Well, if Zogby says it we know we can safely dismiss it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2004, 06:40:37 AM »

That makes me feel much better about half of New York's population being killed in a terrorist attack.

Oh, wait, it's Zogby.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2004, 07:10:48 AM »

Hmm....Zogby eh?  So what do the real polls say?
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2004, 08:18:46 PM »

I'd still like to know how many of Zogby's respondents will say they have been kidnapped by space aliens.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 08:22:07 PM »

I'd still like to know how many of Zogby's respondents will say they have been kidnapped by space aliens.

Probably about half, with the other half refusing to talk about it because they took oaths of silence in the flying saucer.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 08:24:03 PM »

I'd still like to know how many of Zogby's respondents will say they have been kidnapped by space aliens.

Probably about half, with the other half refusing to talk about it because they took oaths of silence in the flying saucer.

I thought they claimed that UFO's were created by the Bush Administration to divert attention from the War in Iraq?
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2004, 02:44:44 AM »

Zogby is a respected polling firm.  It's not like we are trying to see who is winning here.  It doesn't matter that the poll might be a few points off.  It does not matter that it is Zogby here.  They are still a respected firm.  It is clearly a very large percentage.  


The point is still made.  A very large percentage of Americans, or at least New Yorkers, are actually paying attention to what is going on.  There is no way that our air defenses let a plane hit the Pentagon with an hour and a half of warning.  This was allowed to happen.  If you study it, there is no other way.

If you don't believe it, you will soon be in the minority.  Mark my words.

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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2004, 07:30:20 AM »

I'd still like to know how many of Zogby's respondents will say they have been kidnapped by space aliens.

Probably about half, with the other half refusing to talk about it because they took oaths of silence in the flying saucer.

Good point!
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2004, 07:31:15 AM »

I'd still like to know how many of Zogby's respondents will say they have been kidnapped by space aliens.

Probably about half, with the other half refusing to talk about it because they took oaths of silence in the flying saucer.

I thought they claimed that UFO's were created by the Bush Administration to divert attention from the War in Iraq?

There you go giving away the plot line from Micheal Moore's next 'film.'
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2004, 12:35:51 PM »

What I'm curious how many people believe that FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. Most people dismiss the notion that our legendary leader would sacrifice Americans at Pearl Harbor, but in light of the mass outcry of New Yorkers that Bush allowed 9-11 to happen, I believe it's time for the American public to stop praising FDR and begin looking into his involvement with the Pearl Harbor attacks.

P.S. I don't actually believe that Bush or FDR allowed their respective tragedies to occur, I'm only saying that if you question Bush, you must question Roosevelt as well.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2004, 02:01:50 PM »

They're both kook conspiracy theories.

I remember reading an article once that said there actually are a lot of people, including FDR supporters, that think he conspired to get us into WWII (but not Pearl Harbor, obviously). Anyone know anything about this?

It really is interesting. Think what the modern Democratic party would think about that...
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2004, 05:35:11 PM »

FDR did allow Pearl Harbor to happen. The radar crew that picked up the signal and warned commanding officers over and over were told to ignore it. The warning was sent all the way to the Whitehouse where it sat on the desk of the Secretary of War.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2004, 05:54:31 PM »

Okay, and 46% of forum members think freedomburns is insane.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=7992
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2004, 06:40:17 PM »


LOL!
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2004, 06:44:56 PM »

FDR did allow Pearl Harbor to happen. The radar crew that picked up the signal and warned commanding officers over and over were told to ignore it. The warning was sent all the way to the Whitehouse where it sat on the desk of the Secretary of War.

Weren't those radars so inaccurate that a flock of birds could set them off? Also, it's not as if we had any real reason to expect an attack (that I know of).
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2004, 06:50:41 PM »

FDR did allow Pearl Harbor to happen. The radar crew that picked up the signal and warned commanding officers over and over were told to ignore it. The warning was sent all the way to the Whitehouse where it sat on the desk of the Secretary of War.

Weren't those radars so inaccurate that a flock of birds could set them off? Also, it's not as if we had any real reason to expect an attack (that I know of).

I guess the Japanese burning all the documents in their embassy in DC in the days before Pearl Harbor was meaningless.
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2004, 09:19:12 PM »

What I'm curious how many people believe that FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. Most people dismiss the notion that our legendary leader would sacrifice Americans at Pearl Harbor, but in light of the mass outcry of New Yorkers that Bush allowed 9-11 to happen, I believe it's time for the American public to stop praising FDR and begin looking into his involvement with the Pearl Harbor attacks.

P.S. I don't actually believe that Bush or FDR allowed their respective tragedies to occur, I'm only saying that if you question Bush, you must question Roosevelt as well.

Robert Stinnett proves that FDR allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor in his book Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl.  

Using documents pried loose through the Freedom of Information Act during 17 years of research, Stinnett provides overwhelming evidence that FDR and his top advisers knew that Japanese warships were heading toward Hawaii. The heart of his argument is even more inflammatory: Stinnett argues that FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack.

Anyone who does not study this history, or who is naive enough to think that the government does not have many plans and papers on the shelf that contemplate similar acts, is not worthy of commenting on the subject, in my humble opinion.

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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2004, 09:21:02 PM »

What I'm curious how many people believe that FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. Most people dismiss the notion that our legendary leader would sacrifice Americans at Pearl Harbor, but in light of the mass outcry of New Yorkers that Bush allowed 9-11 to happen, I believe it's time for the American public to stop praising FDR and begin looking into his involvement with the Pearl Harbor attacks.

P.S. I don't actually believe that Bush or FDR allowed their respective tragedies to occur, I'm only saying that if you question Bush, you must question Roosevelt as well.

Robert Stinnett proves that FDR allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor in his book Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl.  

Using documents pried loose through the Freedom of Information Act during 17 years of research, Stinnett provides overwhelming evidence that FDR and his top advisers knew that Japanese warships were heading toward Hawaii. The heart of his argument is even more inflammatory: Stinnett argues that FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack.

Anyone who does not study this history, or who is naive enough to think that the government does not have many plans and papers on the shelf that contemplate similar acts, is not worthy of commenting on the subject, in my humble opinion.

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Freedom,

I agree with you on this, 100%.
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2004, 10:13:58 PM »

What I'm curious how many people believe that FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. Most people dismiss the notion that our legendary leader would sacrifice Americans at Pearl Harbor, but in light of the mass outcry of New Yorkers that Bush allowed 9-11 to happen, I believe it's time for the American public to stop praising FDR and begin looking into his involvement with the Pearl Harbor attacks.

P.S. I don't actually believe that Bush or FDR allowed their respective tragedies to occur, I'm only saying that if you question Bush, you must question Roosevelt as well.

Robert Stinnett proves that FDR allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor in his book Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl.  

Using documents pried loose through the Freedom of Information Act during 17 years of research, Stinnett provides overwhelming evidence that FDR and his top advisers knew that Japanese warships were heading toward Hawaii. The heart of his argument is even more inflammatory: Stinnett argues that FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack.

Anyone who does not study this history, or who is naive enough to think that the government does not have many plans and papers on the shelf that contemplate similar acts, is not worthy of commenting on the subject, in my humble opinion.

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Freedom,

I agree with you on this, 100%.

I had to quote you to make sure that this does not get lost in the record.  I have agreed with you on lot of stuff too, SR, but it always is way more fun disagreeing with you.

I know that you will agree with me when I say that the only thing you will find in the middle of the road is white lines and road kill.
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2004, 11:09:13 PM »

I think FDR's foreknowledge is established fact. My extreme Democrat, jewish grandmother (obviously loves FDR) not only thinks he let Pearl Harbor happen, but is glad he did because we had to get into the war.

People knew about 9/11, in Mossad most definitely (some Israelis claim they tried to warn us), but Bush did not know.
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2004, 11:27:10 PM »

an attack from Japan was expected...in the Philipines.

When told of the Pearl Harbor attack FDR replied "What? You don't mean Manila, don't you?"
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