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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2008, 11:10:32 AM »

Hmmm, that could be looked up actually, Lewis is there any part of MN-05 that isn't considered suburban or urban?
No. There is a tiny part of MN-4 though, with 731 people in it.

Hmmm. Is it in Washington or Dakota county? I was thinking it might be White Bear Township but that's far too populated and dense.

1 15.8 (highest UC share of any district at 40.7%. Plurality rural)

UC?
Urban Cluster. Smalltown, in other words.
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2008, 11:14:00 AM »

Ah. Well that makes perfect since then in that district.

And what's the non-urban area in MN-04? And the non-Hassan rural areas in MN-03?
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2008, 06:35:15 AM »

Northeast portion of North Oaks. And that tiny detached bit of White Bear that's to North Oaks' northwest.
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The western boundary of the Minneapolis - Saint Paul UA within MN-03 runs through Dayton where a ribbon along the Misssissippi is included, then along the Dayton-Champlin line, through northwestern Maple Grove, east-central Corcoran, southwestern Maple Grove again, northwestern Plymouth, along the Plymouth-Medina line (with two thin ribbon extensions into Medina, the longer northern one of which actually extends into Corcoran), through Orono along a very complicated line that leaves Long Lake and the parts of Orono southwest of it - and also a bit to the immediate north, around Dickeys Lake - within the UA but the territory to Long Lake's immediate south and southeast (reaching down to the shore of Lake Minnetonka in some places but not in others), as well as to the west, outside, and through east-central Minnetrista, with ribbon extensions to Maple Plain and Saint Bonifacius, both of which are wholly inside the UA.

At its western end, the district even includes slivers of two UC's - Delano-Rockford UC (territory on the western edges of Greenfield and Independence, bordering on Delano and Rockford themselves which are in CD6) and Saint Michael UC (The built-up part of Rogers. With a short corridor connection along I94 in Hassan - Saint Michael itself is in CD6, and considered mostly rural by territory. Most of the territory of Albertville is also in Saint Michael UC.)

Complex, isn't it? Its tracing the boundary of the built-up area (beyond a certain pop. density) in 2000. I'd blindly guess that Delano-Rockford and Saint Michael are really suburban rather than smalltown in character, and are considered separate Urban Clusters because they are too clearly divided from the UC by farmland.

Which means that this definition, applied to Frankfurt, would result in a pretty small UA...
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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2008, 05:37:34 PM »

While that area mentioned would be considered rural by any measurable standard like population density, it's kind of interesting they split cities and incorporated areas. I didn't think the census ever did that. A bit more accurate than the standard of simply including everywhere in a country within a metro area (there are ghost towns in my home county that are considered "metropolitan" by this standard.) but surprising they did this much.

And Rogers is considered to be in the St. Michael area? Uh wow. By that definition a large portion of Hassan is as well. I doubt even Rogers residents would agree with that definition, most of whom work in Maple Grove or whereabouts. Very few people commute west to work, or even shop there. And if St. Michael wasn't there, the area would be just as built up and hardly any different.

As for Rockford and Delano, pretty much what you said. Though the residents would like to pretend they live in true small towns like the residents of Rogers for example. I'm surprised that's considered a separate UC, since even together they aren't that big (only about 8000, and that's current estimates, not 2000 numbers) and wouldn't be anything notable if they were away from the metro. Maybe if you throw in nearby Buffalo to the north as part of the area, but supposedly it's not including that. If anything that should be the "Buffalo-Delano-Rockford UC" rather than just Rockford-Delano. And I wouldn't include any part of Hennepin County in it.
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