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« on: March 18, 2008, 11:15:56 PM »

Working under the assumption that FL and MI will at least some of their delegates seated at the convention and that neither will stage a re-vote, use this thread to explain what your ideal compromise would be.  Here's mine:

1. Both states are stripped of all their superdelegates.  These are the people who had the biggest hand in breaking party rules.  In Michigan they definitely could have prevented this from happening and Florida Democrats were just as eager as the FL-GOP to move up their primary.  Also, this could set a precedent for the rules going into the 2012 or 2016 nominating process.  I imagine governors would be very reluctant to move their primaries if they knew doing so would strip them of their vote at the convention.  The legislators would also be under a lot of pressure from the state DNC leaders and congresspeople to follow the rules so they don't lose their votes either.

2. Both states have their pledged delegate count reduced by half.

3. In Michigan, all delegates which would have been assigned to uncommitted go to Obama.

4. In Florida, all delegates which would have been assigned to Edwards become officially uncommitted.  (he didn't break 15% statewide but I'm sure he did in some of the CDs)

Doing some rough math I think that gives us 37 Clinton, 27 Obama in Michigan and 56 Clinton, 37 Obama in Florida (without the uncommitteds).
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 11:17:54 PM »

Their delegations should be seated, but split 50-50, without super delegates. The DNC must enforce the rules, or else next election season, candidates will understand that the DNC will eventually cave, and they'll campaign in states that break the rules.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 11:19:21 PM »

That's pretty good. It would give HillDawg a 26 delegate net and allow everyone to be represented.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2008, 06:54:17 AM »


I can see them seating half of the Florida delegates, but Michigan is going to be a tough issue since Obama had taken his name off the ballot.  I can't see how they can come up with some arbitrary percentage of votes for Obama and Clinton without a re-do.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 07:48:10 AM »


I can see them seating half of the Florida delegates, but Michigan is going to be a tough issue since Obama had taken his name off the ballot.  I can't see how they can come up with some arbitrary percentage of votes for Obama and Clinton without a re-do.

Would you please stop your incessant habit of being reasonable?  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 07:56:45 AM »

The Florida they should simply seat the delegation with some penalty. It's the only reasonable thing to do. They can't strip the supers, since some of them may have been opposed to the early primary and they cannot strip some and not others based on allegiations, etc. That would only add to the carousel.

Michigan is a tougher issue.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 07:58:16 AM »


I can see them seating half of the Florida delegates, but Michigan is going to be a tough issue since Obama had taken his name off the ballot.  I can't see how they can come up with some arbitrary percentage of votes for Obama and Clinton without a re-do.

Would you please stop your incessant habit of being reasonable?  Wink

ACK!  Darn it, I did it again.  I'm sorry.  I'll try better worse next time.
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