So have things calmed down between the Democratic candidates?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 31, 2024, 04:06:39 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2008 Elections
  So have things calmed down between the Democratic candidates?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Have they, and are they likely to remain this way?
#1
Yes/Yes
 
#2
Yes/No
 
#3
No, and they won't calm down
 
#4
No, but things will calm down
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 33

Author Topic: So have things calmed down between the Democratic candidates?  (Read 1568 times)
Reluctant Republican
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,040


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: March 16, 2008, 03:28:15 PM »

I know the media’s been preoccupied with the Spitzer thing and Obama’s church recently, but it’s been days since I’ve heard or read about Clinton or Obama taking a swipe at each other. I’m guessing this is due in part to Obama’s faith being raised in the news so much. After all, there’s no reason to attack your opponent when he’s caught up in his own troubles. But I also recall reading that Obama and Clinton had a talk on the senate floor in which they agreed to tone down the heated attacks between the two campaigns.

So, question: Has the rhetoric from the two camps really cooled down in an attempt at reconciliation, and are things likely  to remain calm, or do you think we can expect Clinton to start really going after Obama again, especially since he seems a bit vulnerable at the moment?
Logged
Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
GM3PRP
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 45,064
Greece
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 03:54:25 PM »

If I don't feed my pit bull for a week or so, what do you think she'll do at her earliest opportunity?

Father Bill and Sister Hillary?  Yeah, right.
Logged
Reignman
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,236


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -3.65

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2008, 04:04:47 PM »

Yes/No

Today and yesterday weren't as bad as the couple of days before that...
Logged
Padfoot
padfoot714
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,531
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.58, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2008, 06:55:13 PM »

well I just read that they've been trading barbs about who is hiding more documents about their past.  Obama wants Clinton to release her tax returns and currently secret info regarding the Clinton library.  Clinton fires back by claiming she has released more of this type of thing cumulatively over the years than Obama has and that there is actually more available info on her than there is on Obama.
Logged
ottermax
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,800
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -6.09

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2008, 07:36:49 PM »

Yes, I've noticed. I think people need a break from the election. It's been crazy since December. Now people can take a bit of a spring break. I don't think that the campaigns have necessarily calmed down, but the media intensity has. I think it will remain calm, although not for long.
Logged
Michael Z
Mike
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,288
Political Matrix
E: -5.88, S: -4.72

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 05:13:40 AM »

Calmed down for now - or, rather, Clinton and Obama are currently applying the time-fashioned tactic of letting their minions do the attacking, with a few casualties on each side (Power, Ferraro, et al). But wait until PA.
Logged
Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 05:15:55 AM »

Once we start heading into April proper it'll be on.
Logged
MODU
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,023
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 08:19:58 AM »


Yes/No

Things have calmed down between Killary and Obama since Obama is currently under the microscope.  This means Killary can be hands-off and just let the media focus in on him for once.  Once this story passes, however, she will stoke the flames again going into PA, unless something else pops up before then.
Logged
J. J.
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,892
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 11:03:54 AM »


Yes/No

Things have calmed down between Killary and Obama since Obama is currently under the microscope.  This means Killary can be hands-off and just let the media focus in on him for once.  Once this story passes, however, she will stoke the flames again going into PA, unless something else pops up before then.

I think that's the key.  Obama has had two weeks of bad press.  It could stop this week, or it could continue.
Logged
Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 11:21:24 AM »
« Edited: March 17, 2008, 11:29:27 AM by Fmr Gov. Polnut »


Yes/No

Things have calmed down between Killary and Obama since Obama is currently under the microscope.  This means Killary can be hands-off and just let the media focus in on him for once.  Once this story passes, however, she will stoke the flames again going into PA, unless something else pops up before then.

I think that's the key.  Obama has had two weeks of bad press.  It could stop this week, or it could continue.

Bad press isn't necessarily the key either, it's how the campaign handles it.

You can have mud flung at you for months, and whether it sticks to you is dependent on those around you. Mark Sheilds made an interesting observation on the Newshour before this thing broke out. Obama's campaign has prided itself on being free from the Clinton style old-school politiking. The problem is that there are times when spin control is needed, and there's no one around who's enough of a political operator to do it.

The Clintons are the MASTERS of political spin  (usually) they turned the whole Lewinsky matter back onto the Republicans and his numbers went up. Of course the issue being that this tact manages to escape them at the worst possible times during this campaign.
Logged
Beet
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,014


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2008, 04:15:59 PM »


Yes/No

Things have calmed down between Killary and Obama since Obama is currently under the microscope.  This means Killary can be hands-off and just let the media focus in on him for once.  Once this story passes, however, she will stoke the flames again going into PA, unless something else pops up before then.

I think that's the key.  Obama has had two weeks of bad press.  It could stop this week, or it could continue.

Bad press isn't necessarily the key either, it's how the campaign handles it.

You can have mud flung at you for months, and whether it sticks to you is dependent on those around you. Mark Sheilds made an interesting observation on the Newshour before this thing broke out. Obama's campaign has prided itself on being free from the Clinton style old-school politiking. The problem is that there are times when spin control is needed, and there's no one around who's enough of a political operator to do it.

The Clintons are the MASTERS of political spin  (usually) they turned the whole Lewinsky matter back onto the Republicans and his numbers went up. Of course the issue being that this tact manages to escape them at the worst possible times during this campaign.

Maybe they aren't masters of political spin? Have you ever considered that? Maybe the only reason Bill's numbers went up was that the populace reacted negatively to the idea of impeaching a President, which had only been done once in the Republic's history, over a blowjob? The vaunted "political machine" that the Republicans have been touting didn't turn out to be so tough after all. Perhaps some of the stereotypes of the Clintons are just overblown...
Logged
Sam Spade
SamSpade
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,547


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2008, 05:03:41 PM »

Are you kidding?  The war is just starting.
Logged
J. J.
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,892
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2008, 05:08:28 PM »

To all this calm is like call Katrina bright sunny day.
Logged
The Hack Hater
AloneinOregon
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 371
Virgin Islands, British


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 05:09:49 PM »

Well, not right now. Hillary's just sitting back and letting the media get on Obama's case for now. But give a little more time for the furor to die down, and she'll certainly go after him again, soon enough.
Logged
Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2008, 09:32:57 PM »


Yes/No

Things have calmed down between Killary and Obama since Obama is currently under the microscope.  This means Killary can be hands-off and just let the media focus in on him for once.  Once this story passes, however, she will stoke the flames again going into PA, unless something else pops up before then.

I think that's the key.  Obama has had two weeks of bad press.  It could stop this week, or it could continue.

Bad press isn't necessarily the key either, it's how the campaign handles it.

You can have mud flung at you for months, and whether it sticks to you is dependent on those around you. Mark Sheilds made an interesting observation on the Newshour before this thing broke out. Obama's campaign has prided itself on being free from the Clinton style old-school politiking. The problem is that there are times when spin control is needed, and there's no one around who's enough of a political operator to do it.

The Clintons are the MASTERS of political spin  (usually) they turned the whole Lewinsky matter back onto the Republicans and his numbers went up. Of course the issue being that this tact manages to escape them at the worst possible times during this campaign.

Maybe they aren't masters of political spin? Have you ever considered that? Maybe the only reason Bill's numbers went up was that the populace reacted negatively to the idea of impeaching a President, which had only been done once in the Republic's history, over a blowjob? The vaunted "political machine" that the Republicans have been touting didn't turn out to be so tough after all. Perhaps some of the stereotypes of the Clintons are just overblown...

I agree in general with that.

But in case you missed it, I was complimenting them.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.236 seconds with 15 queries.