Report: 1 in 100 American Adults imprisoned

[dead0man]

Externing for the Federal Public Defenders, I can say that most of the work I get is pot and meth.

Users or makers/distributors?

[memphis]

If we turned prisons back into something more than a day spa for most convicts, you would probably see a lot of kids who get picked up change their mind about committing their first (big) crimes.  Bring back hard labor!

Haha, why don't you go down to the 'day spa' for a half-decade of being buggered so frequently you can't retain your own feces, MODU.  Its jolly.  As usual you pontificate from a position of utter ignorance.

Laboring has never been what any person feared about prison - they fear the severe brutality that is meted out by the prison system.  Rape, beatings, and murder are the methods by which America punishes its poor, not by having them carry rocks around.

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My dad used to work at a prison before he retired. The really outrageous part about the sexual abuse is that a majority of it comes not from other inmates but from the guards. Granted, prisons are not effective at reducung recidivism. However, I don't think the reason for this is that they are too luxurious.

[dead0man]

We did this before.  Can I get cite showing how many prisoners actually get raped in prison?  Obviously it happens, but it's not as bad as popular culture makes it out to be.

[opebo]

We did this before.  Can I get cite showing how many prisoners actually get raped in prison?

No, obviously not, since the authorities controlling the prison system hide it.

[Platypus]

1 in 100? Currently behind bars? Ouch. What does that make the rate of 'ever been incarcerated'? 1/85?

[dead0man]

We did this before.  Can I get cite showing how many prisoners actually get raped in prison?

No, obviously not, since the authorities controlling the prison system hide it.

Of course.  If the facts don't agree with your preconcieved notions, the facts must be wrong.

[jesmo]

Also, over 25 years of having the death penalty Texas has only decreased violent crime by 10%. The national average dropped by 8% between 2001 and 2004. Pretty freaking sad, considering they are still 50% higher per capita than the national average according to the FBI's report on violent crimes.

Oh, and the nation average dropped 13% over the last ten years, so Texas being on the down trend would have happened regardless of the death penalty.

The Death Penalty is not suppose to be something to decrease a crime rate, it is suppose to be a punishment to a vicious blood thristy murderer.  If you take someone's life, I believe the government has every right to distory your life. However, a trial must be held to make sure the murder was unjustifiable.

I applaud the states of Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas and Virginia for having excessive use of the death penalty! If you live in an area like I do, you would see why I favor very tough on crime measures.

On a side note, what is up with Iowa's increased spike of crime? Are they fighting over corn or something?

[MODU]

However, I don't think the reason for this is that they are too luxurious.

Being a "day spa" was obviously me being sarcastic.  However, inmates do have a lot more luxary than they need in some cases, including cable tv and the lack of a strict environment (such as free-roaming in minimum security facilities). You go to jail to be punished.

[Umengus]

Also, over 25 years of having the death penalty Texas has only decreased violent crime by 10%. The national average dropped by 8% between 2001 and 2004. Pretty freaking sad, considering they are still 50% higher per capita than the national average according to the FBI's report on violent crimes.

Oh, and the nation average dropped 13% over the last ten years, so Texas being on the down trend would have happened regardless of the death penalty.

The Death Penalty is not suppose to be something to decrease a crime rate, it is suppose to be a punishment to a vicious blood thristy murderer.  If you take someone's life, I believe the government has every right to distory your life. However, a trial must be held to make sure the murder was unjustifiable.

I applaud the states of Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas and Virginia for having excessive use of the death penalty! If you live in an area like I do, you would see why I favor very tough on crime measures.

On a side note, what is up with Iowa's increased spike of crime? Are they fighting over corn or something?

Apply the law is not excessive.

[??????????]

Why don't we just get these states with the death penalty to start clearing up death row. If you know what I mean. Two to three a day would be a great start.

[Franzl]

Isn't it interesting how right-wing conservatives that constantly preach about limited government trust the government to accurately apply the death penalty, while denying the government authority to even tax people where necessary

[opebo]

We did this before.  Can I get cite showing how many prisoners actually get raped in prison?

No, obviously not, since the authorities controlling the prison system hide it.

Of course.  If the facts don't agree with your preconcieved notions, the facts must be wrong.

What 'facts'?  The point we both just made is that there are no 'facts' available about this issue.

But surely you will admit that it is ridiculous to rely upon authorities to police themselves.

Why don't we just get these states with the death penalty to start clearing up death row. If you know what I mean. Two to three a day would be a great start.

You forget, Southern Man, to count.  The numbers of people slated to be murdered by the State are a small percentage of the total incarcerated.

However if you propose to simply start killing all incarcerated persons, or your black neighbors (DIY), then that would probably fulfil your goal.

[Gustaf]

Each state has its own laws about whether or not ex-felons can vote. They can in most states, although some like TN require some jumping through hoops first. I believe most of the states that permanently disenfranchise felons are deep South states.

In other words, they still are trying to prevent blacks from voting.

Forgive me if I missed this, but in the paper today it also stated that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Of course. We all know that only blacks commit crimes.

[Person Man]

Externing for the Federal Public Defenders, I can say that most of the work I get is pot and meth.

Users or makers/distributors?

Both of some, actually.

[??????????]

Isn't it interesting how right-wing conservatives that constantly preach about limited government trust the government to accurately apply the death penalty, while denying the government authority to even tax people where necessary

Yes, because that actually is the state govt responsibility. And I've never opposed taxation at the STATE level. So your little assumption is a failure. Try again.

[Eraserhead]

Only 1 in 100?

[dead0man]

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[Hatman 🍁]

Each state has its own laws about whether or not ex-felons can vote. They can in most states, although some like TN require some jumping through hoops first. I believe most of the states that permanently disenfranchise felons are deep South states.

In other words, they still are trying to prevent blacks from voting.

Forgive me if I missed this, but in the paper today it also stated that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Of course. We all know that only blacks commit crimes.

The article itself suggest there are more black people proportionally in prison than whites. It's like the poll tax affected poor whites too, but it was made to target mostly blacks.