NC PrimD: Public Policy Polling: Obama ahead of Clinton by 4%

[Josh/Devilman88]

New Poll: North Carolina President by Public Policy Polling on 2008-03-03

Summary:

Obama:	47%
Clinton:	43%
Other:	0%
Undecided:	10%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

[Sam Spade]

The Clinton bump over the last 7 days was not localized to Texas/Ohio, as Rasmussen has aptly noted.

Thus, this result is in line with what I would have expected after the bump.  PA is probably in double digits as well.

[Democratic Hawk]

Makes me sick that the candidate who has waged the more negative and 'dirtier' campaign in the Democratic primary is getting any bump; while Obama, who exudes dignity by comparison, is suffering for being the gentleman in this race

He's gonna have to hit harder now and I'm not sure if that's him. It kind of diminishes him and his message

Dave

[Ben.]

He's gonna have to hit harder now and I'm not sure if that's him. It kind of diminishes him and his message

That would be my concern, the same thing happened to Hart in '84, Mondale pretty much did exactly what Clinton is doing now (although he probably did comparativley better than her) and then Hart went negative and it undermined his whole narative... having said that, i think the Obama campaign can hit Clinton hard but they have to be deft to, it's a tough balancing act but the one campaign that probably has the poise to pull it off is the Obama campaign which is far and away the best organised of any this cycle (or any cycle for some time), when was the last time your heard stories of a "wobble" within the Obama camp?   

[Democratic Hawk]

He's gonna have to hit harder now and I'm not sure if that's him. It kind of diminishes him and his message

That would be my concern, the same thing happened to Hart in '84, Mondale pretty much did exactly what Clinton is doing now (although he probably did comparativley better than her) and then Hart went negative and it undermined his whole narative... having said that, i think the Obama campaign can hit Clinton hard but they have to be deft to, it's a tough balancing act but the one campaign that probably has the poise to pull it off is the Obama campaign which is far and away the best organised of any this cycle (or any cycle for some time), when was the last time your heard stories of a "wobble" within the Obama camp?   

Yes, Ben, I agree that Obama has waged the best campaign on both sides this cycle and it is that which informs me just how potentially good a president he could be - and for him to go negative certainly could undermine his very raison d'etre in the presidential race

Good, indeed, would suffice given that after 8 years of His Ineptness, I consider it wise not to play too high an expectations game; if only, to avoid any possible disappointment [Labour's emphatic victory in 1997 compared with where the government stands, at present, has also urred me to weight on the side of caution]

It's important that Obama's campaign doesn't wobble and, in the face of the onslaught that is sure to intensify, it's important that Obama retains his dignity and keeps his cool. There are some politicians who can cut it as 'bad guys', or 'gals' for that matter, but he is not one of them

Unfortunately, for Obama, the lies and smears being made against him are starting to resonate. I can find no other reason as to why 25% of Clinton primary voters would vote McCain if Obama is the the Democratic nominee, yet only 10% of Obama primary voters would do likewise if Clinton is the nominee. It should be about the issues , on which Clinton is closer to Obama than she is to McCain

The best thing Obama can do is be himself ; by running what is essentially a civil campaign articulating his vision of a better, more hopeful, future, which would be a break from the politics as usual kind of cynicism that has plagued the political world for too long

Obama might be a liberal, but he has the potential to be that kind of liberal who transcends the ideological chasm by bringing people together, as he says around a 'common purpose'

Dave

[Trilobyte]

Unfortunately, for Obama, the lies and smears being made against him are starting to resonate.

How exactly is criticizing his health care plan, his lying about NAFTA and his refusal to answer questions about Rezko considered "lies and smears"? Obama dropped the ball on these issues over the last two weeks.

The best thing Obama can do is be himself ; by running what is essentially a civil campaign articulating his vision of a better, more hopeful, future, which would be a break from the politics as usual kind of cynicism that has plagued the political world for too long

Obama might be a liberal, but he has the potential to be that kind of liberal who transcends the ideological chasm by bringing people together, as he says around a 'common purpose'

If anything, I think Tuesday's results showed Obama can't just run a campaign on empty messages like "hope" and saturate the market with ads. And aside from giving speeches, there's no evidence that he can transcend politics, if such a thing is even possible. For me, his recent actions only reinforces my view that he is no better than the phony, hypocritical kind of politicians he claims to be against.

[StateBoiler]

Makes me sick that the candidate who has waged the more negative and 'dirtier' campaign in the Democratic primary is getting any bump; while Obama, who exudes dignity by comparison, is suffering for being the gentleman in this race

Welcome to politics. If you can't stand mud, don't get in the pigpen.

[Trilobyte]

Makes me sick that the candidate who has waged the more negative and 'dirtier' campaign in the Democratic primary is getting any bump; while Obama, who exudes dignity by comparison, is suffering for being the gentleman in this race

Welcome to politics. If you can't stand mud, don't get in the pigpen.

Exactly. And Obama's campaign has thrown plenty of mud as well. The notion that Obama runs a positive "gentleman's" campaign is a myth. Both candidates are doing what it takes to win.

[Democratic Hawk]

Makes me sick that the candidate who has waged the more negative and 'dirtier' campaign in the Democratic primary is getting any bump; while Obama, who exudes dignity by comparison, is suffering for being the gentleman in this race

Welcome to politics. If you can't stand mud, don't get in the pigpen.

I've been political ever since I can remember and yes I'm all too aware of how it works. It's doesn't necessarily follow that I like how it works

Dave

[Democratic Hawk]

Unfortunately, for Obama, the lies and smears being made against him are starting to resonate.

How exactly is criticizing his health care plan, his lying about NAFTA and his refusal to answer questions about Rezko considered "lies and smears"? Obama dropped the ball on these issues over the last two weeks.

I wasn't referring to that. I'm referring to the possibility that falsehoods being bandied about re-his faith are having a detrimental impact

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Surprising as it may seem, Obama is actually running on a platform. You can find it here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

For the record, I originally endorsed Clinton but what I considered her husbands appalling conduct pre-the South Carolina Democratic primary forced me to withdraw that endorsement

Obama is not the "black candidate" he is the post-racial candidate . Furthermore, while Obama exudes dignity much of what I've seen from Clinton is that of a thorougly base woman, which has led her to play what I perceive to be the politics of desparation.

Now, call me naive, but I'll take the politics of inspiration over that of desparation

Obama may now have not much choice but go negative on Clinton, but that, as I've said, risks diminishing his standing and his message. It's not something I think he personally will be very comfortable in doing

Dave