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« on: March 06, 2008, 10:19:48 PM »

Party Donations Show G.O.P. Edge

By LESLIE WAYNE
Published: March 7, 2008


WASHINGTON — For all the success that Democratic presidential candidates have had in raising money — taking in a combined total of over $500 million in the current race — the Republicans are beating them in one crucial area of fund-raising: the money being raised by the parties themselves.

The Democratic National Committee ended 2007 nearly flat broke, with cash of $2.9 million and debts of $2.2 million. Since then it has raised some money, paid down debt and managed to put $3.7 million in its piggy bank. This compares, however, with $25 million that the Republican National Committee has in cash on hand, after having raised $97 million since the beginning of 2007.

And with Senator John McCain now the presumptive Republican nominee, party officials started plotting with his campaign this week on deploying those resources against the well-financed Democratic candidacies of Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

Already, President Bush, who spoke at 29 Republican fund-raisers and is credited with raising $63.5 million last year, is lined up for more R.N.C. fund-raising in the weeks ahead. This money is likely to provide the financial muscle for Mr. McCain to continue his attacks on both Democratic candidates.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 10:56:21 PM »

They are the incumbents!
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 11:00:21 PM »

Pretty encouraging sign.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 11:03:12 PM »

Um... I guess this article is just going to conveniently ignore the fact that the DCCC and DSCC are swimming in cash, while their Republican counterparts are completely broke?

Also, this doesn't even begin to even things up, as Clinton + Obama raised some $90 million in February alone, while McCain raised a paltry $12 million.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 11:04:46 PM »

As long as you ignore the DSCC and DCCC and their combined edge over the NRSC and the NRCC... Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 11:08:23 PM »

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 11:08:56 PM »

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....
Thanks for that comment that is totally relevant to the topic.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 01:35:49 AM »

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....

Why was it necessary to say inexperienced black man?
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 01:44:17 AM »

The overall fundraising for the GOP is so weak that they will need to put everything they have into the Congressional races to avoid a 2006-like defeat. They won´t have any money left for McCain. He´ll be on his own financially. Either Obama or Clinton will raise $100 Mio. + each month once their race is decided. McCain is currently raising 10-20 Mio. I don´t expect such a difference until November, but I expect that the Democratic candidate will outraise McCain 60-40 until November. The GOP will have to decide if they throw everything into winning the presidency while losing the Congressional races in a blowout, or risk losing the presidency to gain a few seats in a cycle to their disadvantage ...
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 02:09:13 AM »

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....

Why was it necessary to say inexperienced black man?

Because clearly the fact that he's black makes him unfit to be President, as it would seem the fact Clinton is a women also makes her unfit... now if Obama was inexperianced and white or Clinton power-hungry but a man it'd be a different story all together! Tongue 
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 02:29:23 AM »

What this really shows is that the DNC is one of the arms of the national Democrat party that is having trouble raising money.

Howard Dean has alienated a lot of contributors.

If you take the RNC fundraising in context, its not doing so well either, just not as bad as the DNC.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 06:42:26 AM »

Echoing the points made by meekermariner and Ben

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....

When talking about Obama, I see no reason why 'an inexperiened man' (and that is a matter of opinion) could not have sufficed

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 08:26:15 AM »


The Republican party generally raises money better as a party than the Democrats, and have done so for many years.  The question will be, however, how well does McCain and the Democratic nominee perform in their individual fundraising going into the general election?  Both Obama and Clinton have done well during the primaries, but will there still be enough doners later in the year?  McCain did a lot on a shoe-string budget, but will the Republican doners step up now that he's the nominee?

Can't read too much into this one article.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 08:28:20 AM »

Echoing the points made by meekermariner and Ben

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....

When talking about Obama, I see no reason why 'an inexperiened man' (and that is a matter of opinion) could not have sufficed

Dave

There was nothing wrong with using the description of "black" since it is relevant.  He is the first serious black (well, half-black at least) candidate to potentially win the nomination.  He indirectly references this in his speeches, which makes it a valid adjective.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 08:40:09 AM »

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....


I also cannot believe the Democrats completey overlooked a myriad of "normal" candidates like Bayh, Warner, etc who would have walked away with this election without even trying.

Two liberal senators as candidates = this is what happens when the lunatics take over.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2008, 08:43:24 AM »

Echoing the points made by meekermariner and Ben

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....

When talking about Obama, I see no reason why 'an inexperiened man' (and that is a matter of opinion) could not have sufficed

Dave

There was nothing wrong with using the description of "black" since it is relevant.  He is the first serious black (well, half-black at least) candidate to potentially win the nomination.  He indirectly references this in his speeches, which makes it a valid adjective.

Relevant to the criticism of him how? The the other three adjectives Naso used, "unliked", "power-hungry" and "inexperienced", were all negatives. Why does the fact that he's black need to be brought up when criticizing him and lumped in with all the other adjectives he used to describe the candidates?


And as a disclaimer, I'm not saying Mike's a racist... just that that remark was a little out of place.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2008, 08:53:32 AM »

Relevant to the criticism of him how? The the other three adjectives Naso used, "unliked", "power-hungry" and "inexperienced", were all negatives. Why does the fact that he's black need to be brought up when criticizing him and lumped in with all the other adjectives he used to describe the candidates?

And as a disclaimer, I'm not saying Mike's a racist... just that that remark was a little out of place.

You are interpretting it as a negative.  I view Mike as stating the characteristics of their campaign styles.  Killary campaigns on being liked (indirectly by aligning herself with her husband's career), power-hungry (her whole personna since her husband first being elected President highlights this trait clearly), and woman (she campaigns on being the first woman President).  Obama tries to outmatch Killary on her experience platform by being a candidate of change (in other words, admitting that he isnt' as experienced), while at the same time tries to out-do her "bonus" of being a woman by campaigning on his race (which is done indirectly, yet very successfully as can be seen in voter turnout demographics).  As we've discussed here a few times already, Obama really would not be in the position he is currently in if he were white.  Killary would be the one with the delegate lead since the voter demographics would have shifted with Bill being "the first black President."

It seems more like people are trying to turn this into a "Mike is a racist" slant rather than to address the reality of the two candidates.  Biden and Richardson are both the better qualified candidates than Obama and Killary, but the party and the media decided to favor them for whatever reason.  It just spotlights how bad modern politics have become.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2008, 12:26:39 PM »

Echoing the points made by meekermariner and Ben

I can't believe cool candidates like Richardson and Biden got pushed out for an unliked power-hungry woman and an inexperienced black man. I'm so tired of seeing the words CLINTON OBAMA CLINTON OBAMA....

When talking about Obama, I see no reason why 'an inexperiened man' (and that is a matter of opinion) could not have sufficed

Dave

There was nothing wrong with using the description of "black" since it is relevant.  He is the first serious black (well, half-black at least) candidate to potentially win the nomination.  He indirectly references this in his speeches, which makes it a valid adjective.

My point stands. To describe Obama as "an inexperienced man" would have sufficed

Dave
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2008, 12:28:45 PM »

This just means that, yet again, the Dem candidate will be running their own operation with the help of the various outside groups, whereas the GOP candidate will essentially be running their operation through the RNC.  Not really big.
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2008, 01:53:13 PM »

I see people mentioning how McCain is a "white man" and so, yes, I mentioned Obama is black. What's the big deal? Quit crying over the disaster the Democratic Party is in!
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2008, 02:30:50 PM »

I see people mentioning how McCain is a "white man" and so, yes, I mentioned Obama is black. What's the big deal? Quit crying over the disaster the Democratic Party is in!

Who has mentioned that McCain is a "white man"?  Also, does he really drive a pick-up?  And when has he been seen in a plaid work shirt?
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2008, 03:15:01 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2008, 03:35:14 PM by Mike for McCain »

I see people mentioning how McCain is a "white man" and so, yes, I mentioned Obama is black. What's the big deal? Quit crying over the disaster the Democratic Party is in!

Who has mentioned that McCain is a "white man"?  Also, does he really drive a pick-up?  And when has he been seen in a plaid work shirt?

I have seen it mentioned. As for my sig...it's a cool lookin' cartoon of McCain.
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