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« on: December 29, 2007, 06:24:30 AM »
« edited: December 29, 2007, 06:29:32 AM by Lt. Governor Rockefeller Republican »

Huckaboom Does It Again

Pell, IOWA - A senior aide to former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee admitted on Friday that the former Governor had 'no foreign policy credentials' after his comments reacting to the assassination of two time Prime Minister of Pakistan Benzair Bhutto.

Huckabee said the crisis sparked by Bhutto's assassination should lead to a crack down on illegal immigrants from Pakistan. The Huckabee aide who admitted he had 'no foreign policy credentials' said that Huckabee was trying to turn attention away from scrutiny of his foreign policy knowledge.

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 07:07:21 AM »
« Edited: December 29, 2007, 07:11:16 AM by Lt. Governor Rockefeller Republican »

Huckabee is trying to make Illegal Immigration an issue when the real issue is the crisis in Pakistan.

Huckabee quickly changed the topic from Pakistan to Illegal Immigration when he made reference to illegal Pakistani immigrants that fled the country. The former Governor said according to sources, notably the CIA and a newspaper article published in 2006 said that second highest amount of illegal immigrants that come to the United States is from Pakistan.

Huckabee is, once again using Illegal Immigration as his centerpiece in his candidacy for the Presidency of the United States. Huckabee will tell a tale telling gullible Republican voters in Iowa that the evil Pakistanis, who are running away from tyranny and violence will ruin America by taking their jobs and their future. And of course Huckabee will tell those gullible voters, we cannot let them in. And they'll believe him.

It's amazing to believe that people like Mike Huckabee who's hardly ventured outside the United States, or should I say a man who knows nothing about the World, can lead the most powerful nation on Earth. When he still believes that "President" Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan still hasn't lifted marshal law.

BTW: I got so involved writing this post on Huckabee and Pakistani Immigrants because I was listening to Adagio for Strings from Oliver Stone's Platoon. Very powerful stuff.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 01:06:15 PM »

Martial law.  Sorry to nitpick, but I've just seen that mistake one too many times in the past few days.

Yet another reason for me to despise Huckabee--not only does he have messed up social views and a patently unrealistic economic policy, he doesn't know jack about foreign affairs.  And the last thing we need is another president who has to rely utterly on his advisers on foreign policy...
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 01:15:10 PM »

Martial law.  Sorry to nitpick, but I've just seen that mistake one too many times in the past few days.

Yet another reason for me to despise Huckabee--not only does he have messed up social views and a patently unrealistic economic policy, he doesn't know jack about foreign affairs.  And the last thing we need is another president who has to rely utterly on his advisers on foreign policy...

Especially when those foreign policy advisors would basically be Bush carry-overs. Now that's scary.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 02:27:49 PM »

LOL. This is one of the biggest gaffes in the campaign, especially since Huckabee is known for being soft on illegal immigration. And this close to Iowa, ouch.

Further reaffirms my prediction Romney still takes Iowa very narrowly.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 02:29:27 PM »

That said, can you imagine how much of a disaster he'd be in the general doing stuff like this?
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2007, 02:41:28 PM »

That said, can you imagine how much of a disaster he'd be in the general doing stuff like this?

With his vast knowledge and expertise in foreign policy, can you imagine how much of a disaster he'd be as President?
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2007, 02:44:35 PM »

Yeah, basically Bush 2.0. Imagine being the Democratic nominee able to run against a third term of Bush. Perfect!
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2007, 02:49:12 PM »

Its his lack of foreign policy experience that is making me turn away from him.  I love his social views and I love the fact that he a Southern Baptist minister, but at this stage in the game, we need someone with good, sound foreign policy experience.  People like John McCain or Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2007, 02:52:47 PM »
« Edited: December 29, 2007, 02:55:39 PM by Supersoulty »

That said, can you imagine how much of a disaster he'd be in the general doing stuff like this?

I honestly think very few people will even notice.

This guy is such a lowball, intellectual light-weight for the White House, how can anyone support him?  Thompson has yet to convince me he can put together more than two sentences on any issue and include anything bigger than a five letter word.  Romney is pure snake oil.

To me the choice seems obvious, it has to be Rudy or McCain.  I just can't imagine what people are thinking who would vote otherwise.  Rudy might lack real foreign policy experience but at least he has been reading up and knows what he is talking about. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2007, 02:55:20 PM »

It's one thing not to have any foreign-policy experience; we've had Presidents in the past, in fact in the recent past (Carter and Reagan) who lacked foreign-policy experience coming into the Presidency but who handled it decently once they were in office. But it's another not to even show any understanding of it, like Huckabee.
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2007, 02:57:36 PM »

It's one thing not to have any foreign-policy experience; we've had Presidents in the past, in fact in the recent past (Carter and Reagan) who lacked foreign-policy experience coming into the Presidency but who handled it decently once they were in office. But it's another not to even show any understanding of it, like Huckabee.

Yeah that's pretty much it.

I'd consider Romney to have far greater understanding of it than Huckabee, despite no experience. That'd make me more likely to support him if I were a Republican (which I'm not, so it's moot anyway)
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2007, 03:06:56 PM »

Seriously, though, we have so much ammo against this guy. The election really shouldn't even be close if Huckabee is nominated. All the Dems have to do is air ads in the swing states showing Huckabee acting completely clueless on foreign policy issues.

If this man wins the Presidency, there really isn't any point anymore. You know what I'm saying?
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2007, 03:10:01 PM »

But why would you expect him to win? Even half of Republicans seem to hate him.
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 03:11:20 PM »

I think back to one of the early debates when the candidates were asked the question "What is the difference between Shia and Sunni Islam".  Some of the people on that stage were clueless.  Some of them gave a kinda half answer in terms of what it means in handling each group.  Rudy was the only person on the stage who actually knew what the exact difference was between the two.
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2007, 03:11:57 PM »

Quick, average Iowa Republican!  Abandon the foreign-policy-inexperienced Huckabee in favor of the foreign-policy-inexperienced Mitt Romney!
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2007, 03:29:19 PM »

Quick, average Iowa Republican!  Abandon the foreign-policy-inexperienced Huckabee in favor of the foreign-policy-inexperienced Mitt Romney!

This summed it up well:

It's one thing not to have any foreign-policy experience; we've had Presidents in the past, in fact in the recent past (Carter and Reagan) who lacked foreign-policy experience coming into the Presidency but who handled it decently once they were in office. But it's another not to even show any understanding of it, like Huckabee.
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2007, 03:33:07 PM »

To me the choice seems obvious, it has to be Rudy or McCain.  I just can't imagine what people are thinking who would vote otherwise.

They prefer lip service on social issues to actual accomplishments and qualifications?
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2007, 07:15:25 PM »

Huckabee defended his comments on TODAY: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/#22429544

he claims that the stats he got on all those pakistanis streaming across the border comes from an article in the Denver Post. Thats what we really need...a president that makes policies and decisions based on unvetted claims in the Denver Post. In the last week with all his comments he has made it blaringly clear he would have difficulty finding Pakistan on a map.

But I think his base really doen't care.

That being said...only McCain for the GOP has any foreign policy cred.
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2007, 07:23:04 PM »

Huckabee defended his comments on TODAY: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/#22429544

he claims that the stats he got on all those pakistanis streaming across the border comes from an article in the Denver Post. Thats what we really need...a president that makes policies and decisions based on unvetted claims in the Denver Post. In the last week with all his comments he has made it blaringly clear he would have difficulty finding Pakistan on a map.

But I think his base really doen't care.

That being said...only McCain for the GOP has any foreign policy cred.

I'm not entirely certain Huckabee could find Arkansas on the map.  He better though, because I can't help but to think that if God really does have anything to do with itm he'll be heading back there soon.
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2007, 12:50:48 AM »

Now the Huckster is claiming Richard Allen as a foreign policy adviser with whom he has spoken.

Allen denies ever having spoken with the Huckster.

What is so interesting about the Huckster is that the lies he tells are so easily disproved.

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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2007, 01:21:28 AM »

Oh, and BTW, the Huckster earlier claimed Frank Gaffney as a foreign policy adviser.

Gaffney has made it clear that he has not talked to the Huckster and is not a foreign policy adviser to the Hucster.

Boy, talk about being a serial liar!
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2007, 01:39:05 AM »

Now the Huckster is claiming Richard Allen as a foreign policy adviser with whom he has spoken.

Allen denies ever having spoken with the Huckster.

What is so interesting about the Huckster is that the lies he tells are so easily disproved.



And yet the media doesn't report on them... gee I wonder why.
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