Should the US have a system for banning movies/video games?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

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Contradicting your Anti-Catholicism..

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Perhaps so that people in Officialdom will be seen not to be endorsing controversial products. Those who want Manhunt 2 and have the means to do so (ie. Connection to the Internet or knowledge of the Black market), will get it. Morality is not the only reason behind a potential ban, you know.

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In Mainstream movie theatres it has the same effect of restricting access. And I said already rental video stores tend to flount the banning rules (Showgirls is "banned" here but able to rent on DVD at my nearby store.)

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The law is only what the Elite\Officialdom thinks; not what the rest of the population do. A law without being followed by a good majority of the population is essentially useless and bound to fail. (And has). Plus even so Ireland's laws on sexuality aren't much more conservative now than those in the States and perhaps more liberal than those in the south.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

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Contradicting your Anti-Catholicism..

Howso?

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Perhaps so that people in Officialdom will be seen not to be endorsing controversial products. Those who want Manhunt 2 and have the means to do so (ie. Connection to the Internet or knowledge of the Black market), will get it. Morality is not the only reason behind a potential ban, you know.

Or they could simply not deal with the regulation of such products at all and put an end to this idea of being "seen" doing so. In the US the idea that not banning such a product is the equivalent of endorsing it would be seen as hilarious in even the most conservative areas.

In Mainstream movie theatres it has the same effect of restricting access.

All of the movies I mentioned above were playing in mainstream movie theaters. Hell I remember how my friend's brother (15 at the time) bragged about how he got into Showgirls at the theater.

And I said already rental video stores tend to flount the banning rules (Showgirls is "banned" here but able to rent on DVD at my nearby store.)

And possibly the edited version.

The law is only what the Elite\Officialdom thinks; not what the rest of the population do. A law without being followed by a good majority of the population is essentially useless and bound to fail. (And has). Plus even so Ireland's laws on sexuality aren't much more conservative now than those in the States and perhaps more liberal than those in the south.

I don't care about the south, I wish they would secede again.

[Gabu]

The law's what matters most.

In America, perhaps; in other places where some laws are rarely enforced, it really matters very little.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The law's what matters most.

In America, perhaps; in other places where some laws are rarely enforced, it really matters very little.

Except it is enforced, even if you can still easily import Manhunt 2, it's still not available for sale. Most countries that ban movies/video games do take them seriously, in Melbourne, Australia a public showing of Ken Park was shut down.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

The law's what matters most.

In America, perhaps; in other places where some laws are rarely enforced, it really matters very little.

Except it is enforced, even if you can still easily import Manhunt 2, it's still not available for sale. Most countries that ban movies/video games do take them seriously, in Melbourne, Australia a public showing of Ken Park was shut down.

I can assure that the law is never that seriously in Ireland.

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Well it's a bit more complicated than *THAT* but it is rather complicated and can really only be understood by people who know Irish culture fairly well (ie. Lived here for quite a while.) It should be pointed out here that most Irish people (if they have at all) only heard of Manhunt 2 after it was banned; I suspect Kelleher banned it in order to counter some the Maternalist moaning over Video Games that occurs in certain parts of this country which he knew would ensue should the game be released generally. Plus it should be noted that here Censor ratings (the Irish Equivalents of R, PG-13, etc) are not followed at all and it used to be quite easy for my 12-year old brother to rent out GTA3. Which is not something I approve of; but that's another topic.

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Still part of your country; Ireland has some VERY traditionalist parts as well (I will refrain from the word "conservative" though as it means something different in Ireland than in America.) such as well, most of Ireland west of the River Shannon, South Kerry, West Cork, etc. But they are still part of the country. Though under American defintions I would say easily nowadays the Republic of Ireland is much more liberal than Northern Ireland. Especially in Rural areas.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Well it's a bit more complicated than *THAT* but it is rather complicated and can really only be understood by people who know Irish culture fairly well (ie. Lived here for quite a while.) It should be pointed out here that most Irish people (if they have at all) only heard of Manhunt 2 after it was banned; I suspect Kelleher banned it in order to counter some the Maternalist moaning over Video Games that occurs in certain parts of this country which he knew would ensue should the game be released generally.

Ah, well that proves there is a much more hangup over this sort of thing in Ireland than here.

Plus it should be noted that here Censor ratings (the Irish Equivalents of R, PG-13, etc) are not followed at all and it used to be quite easy for my 12-year old brother to rent out GTA3.

12 year olds here can also easily rent GTA games. I rented countless M-video games before I was 17. States have tried to pass laws against this, but they NEVER last 5 minutes in court.

It was also extremely easy to rent or get into R rated movies as long as you looked like you were at least in high school, and I've already told th story of the local rental place whose boss specifically told employees to rent to kids who looked underage.

I also note the "used to" in that statement. So 12 year olds can't get GTA games now? If so, Ireland is certainly more repressive than the US in that respect.

Still part of your country; Ireland has some VERY traditionalist parts as well (I will refrain from the word "conservative" though as it means something different in Ireland than in America.) such as well, most of Ireland west of the River Shannon, South Kerry, West Cork, etc. But they are still part of the country. Though under American defintions I would say easily nowadays the Republic of Ireland is much more liberal than Northern Ireland. Especially in Rural areas.

But the south doesn't affect the laws here. The only thing they do is elect horrible politicians to the national level. Which is quite awful, but I can still ignore that when talk about local issues.

[Eraserhead]

100% say no. That pretty much explains how dominant the 18-24 age bracket is on this forum right there.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

100% say no. That pretty much explains how dominant the 18-24 age bracket is on this forum right there.

I doubt this would have much support among any age bracket, since such blatant censorship is so frowned upon here (even by most conservatives)