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« on: September 14, 2007, 11:15:09 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2007, 02:21:26 PM »


Of course though that's not all corporate interests buy, you do realize that right - BRTD?

The most obvious example being the favouritism of Halliburton as a case in point.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 02:25:53 PM »


Yes, but then why pick that to b!tch about out of all the other bad corporate interests?
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 02:29:10 PM »


Yes, but then why pick that to b!tch about out of all the other bad corporate interests?

To be honest it was the first link I found when listing major Corporate donations to Al Gore in 2000 that came from a reliable site (Corpwatch).

Though I still think such large-scale donations are in the end anti-democratic and it's likely to lead to decisions which influence certain donor companies and not the general industry. And as big donors are always going to be big companies it's usually consumers aswell as the competition that lose out in the end.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2007, 02:32:16 PM »

Since Corpwatch seems to be ran by prudish authoritarians ala Nader, why should I give a sh!t about anything they have to say?

By the way do you agree with this quote by your worshipped idol Mr. Nader?

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Or how about his alliance with James Dobson to trash the Democrats? Would you vote for Dobson over Gore? Nader apparently would.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2007, 02:38:02 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2007, 02:40:25 PM by Gully Foyle »

Since Corpwatch seems to be ran by prudish authoritarians ala Nader, why should I give a sh!t about anything they have to say?

By the way do you agree with this quote by your worshipped idol Mr. Nader?

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Or how about his alliance with James Dobson to trash the Democrats? Would you vote for Dobson over Gore? Nader apparently would.

I agree with some of it. As he didn't say it should be banned.

Of course the problem of Violence and Sex in the media isn't that Sex and Violence exist in the media; it's rather how they are portrayed. Though I must say I'm something of a hypocrite in this; of course the question that people should ask when watching such stuff (and I've watched\listened to many of those things) is why are you finding it entertaining? - but the idea of self-questioning and self-discovery seems lost on you BRTD.

And Corpwatch is one of the best sites on the net in detailing abuses by corporate interests. Needs to be listened to.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2007, 02:39:52 PM »

He's anti-liberal. Marilyn Manson, Jerry Springer and Howard Stern are all liberal. Jerry Springer even considered running for Senate as a Democrat.

And other than banning it how does he propose we stop this "poison"?
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2007, 02:45:53 PM »

He's anti-liberal. Marilyn Manson, Jerry Springer and Howard Stern are all liberal. Jerry Springer even considered running for Senate as a Democrat.

And other than banning it how does he propose we stop this "poison"?

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I think the answer is there. A certain level of self-awareness and self-knowing is often what is lacked by many of the consumers of said items, I've killed many a pixel in my game playing days; I don't know whether that made me a bad person (Though I'm least able to judge) but it helped in that I developed (or at least I think I did) a certain ability to self question: Why is this entertaining?; Why is this fun?; Why do people market such stuff to me? and you should know that marketing is the trick where people are convinced into feeling they are not being convinced - but as I consider myself a liberal I believe that this can only be tackled on an individual level; as in the end we are all individuals and individuals must develop at least partially free from the major influences in society and come to one's own conclusions and opinions.


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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2007, 03:03:44 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 09:28:51 PM »

Not another Nader debate.

I oppose Internet taxation, and oppose cable regulation.

The only Internet regulation I support is requiring net neutrality, which is a wonderful idea.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 09:30:37 PM »

Not another Nader debate.

I oppose Internet taxation, and oppose cable regulation.

The only Internet regulation I support is requiring net neutrality, which is a wonderful idea.
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2007, 12:18:36 AM »

Not another Nader debate.

I oppose Internet taxation, and oppose cable regulation.

The only Internet regulation I support is requiring net neutrality, which is a wonderful idea.

This isn't about Nader though.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2007, 12:24:32 AM »


Whatever, denying that Gore was a corporate shill is pretty much the same topic
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2007, 12:39:00 AM »

The fact that he supports the corporate stance on these issues is not a bad thing.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2007, 12:44:26 AM »

The fact that he supports the corporate stance on these issues is not a bad thing.

I don't disagree.
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2007, 12:58:24 AM »

He's anti-liberal. Marilyn Manson, Jerry Springer and Howard Stern are all liberal. Jerry Springer even considered running for Senate as a Democrat.
No they're not. Marilyn Manson and Howard Stern both lean towards libertarianism. Stern even ran as one before.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2007, 01:00:55 AM »

Not another Nader debate.

I oppose Internet taxation, and oppose cable regulation.

The only Internet regulation I support is requiring net neutrality, which is a wonderful idea.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2007, 01:03:43 AM »

Not another Nader debate.

I oppose Internet taxation, and oppose cable regulation.

The only Internet regulation I support is requiring net neutrality, which is a wonderful idea.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2007, 01:22:40 AM »

Good/Good

Cable is not public domain, thus shouldn't be gov't regulated.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2007, 02:44:08 AM »

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Cable is not public domain, thus shouldn't be gov't regulated.

w00t w00t we agree!! Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2007, 04:14:54 PM »

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Cable is not public domain, thus shouldn't be gov't regulated.

Oh goody.. so I can get porn at 11am on a Sunday on basic cable?  YES!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2007, 04:25:40 PM »

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Cable is not public domain, thus shouldn't be gov't regulated.
I'd go further and say TV shouldn't be "regulated" outside of anti-monopoly legislation. Let people make their own viewing and listening choices, not costly government bureaucrats and self-appointed moralizers. Of course with the degree of corporate self-censorship and cowardice in our society, it's likely not that much would change even if we did do that.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 04:48:53 PM »

He's anti-liberal. Marilyn Manson, Jerry Springer and Howard Stern are all liberal. Jerry Springer even considered running for Senate as a Democrat.
No they're not. Marilyn Manson and Howard Stern both lean towards libertarianism. Stern even ran as one before.

Stern also endorsed George Pataki (R) in 1994 and Christie Whitman (R) in 1993.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2007, 08:00:45 PM »

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Cable is not public domain, thus shouldn't be gov't regulated.
I'd go further and say TV shouldn't be "regulated" outside of anti-monopoly legislation. Let people make their own viewing and listening choices, not costly government bureaucrats and self-appointed moralizers. Of course with the degree of corporate self-censorship and cowardice in our society, it's likely not that much would change even if we did do that.
Not true. Without the threat of government moralists shooting down any controversial shows that would change. It would take a generation or two for it to sink in though. For the first few years nothing would change but within 5-10 years we'd see relaxing of studio policies and within 20-30 years...
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