Atlasian Civil Liberties Caucus: Senatorial Report Card

[Ebowed]

These are the August 2007 ACLC Senate report cards.  Senators were assessed on a wide variety of material including euthanasia, prostitution, hypodermic needles, condom restrictions, illegal immigration, and copyright reform.

Northeast: Keystone Phil: 17%
Southeast: Sam Spade: 33%
Mideast: Al: 100%
Midwest: Lewis Trondheim: 90%
Pacific: Rob: 100%
District 1: EarlAW: 100%
District 2: DownWithDaLeft: 13%
District 3: PBrunsel: 11%
District 4: Brandon H: 19%
District 5: Ebowed: 100%

[Hatman 🍁]

Where did Lewis go wrong?

[Ebowed]

Where did Lewis go wrong?

He voted against legalizing euthanasia a while back.

[Hatman 🍁]

Where did Lewis go wrong?

He voted against legalizing euthanasia a while back.

Damn Germans.

[SPC]

Could you provide us with the specific roll-call votes (or a link(s) to them) used to grade these senators?

[King]

These are the August 2007 ACLC Senate report cards.  Senators were assessed on a wide variety of material including euthanasia, prostitution, hypodermic needles, condom restrictions, illegal immigration, and copyright reform.

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Pacific: Rob: 100%

What exactly has Rob done to get an A++?  So far in this session he's easily missed 3/4th of the votes on the floor, has provided 0 debate, and--despite being a member of the Senate for the last four sessions (20th, 19th, 18th, 17th)--he's submitted no legislation in the proposal thread.

I understand this is more about issues than performance, but he should at least be docked 10 points for truancy.

[Bacon King]

Senate Average: 58.3%

[DownWithTheLeft]

Senate Average: 58.3%

I find the range more hysterical

[Hatman 🍁]

Some Libertarian you are, DWTL.

[SPC]

Some Libertarian you are, DWTL.

Well, although I agree that DWTL is not a libertarian, I feel that there should at least be a link to the roll call votes so there can be some credibility for these scores.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Some Libertarian you are, DWTL.

This organization is far from libertarian, my votes are very libertarian as I have voted against all increases in spending, and for choices when then no tax increase is involved

[King]

Some Libertarian you are, DWTL.

This organization is far from libertarian, my votes are very libertarian as I have voted against all increases in spending, and for choices when then no tax increase is involved

That's not being libertarian.  That's just conservatism.  What have you done on civil issues?

[DownWithTheLeft]

Some Libertarian you are, DWTL.

This organization is far from libertarian, my votes are very libertarian as I have voted against all increases in spending, and for choices when then no tax increase is involved

That's not being libertarian.  That's just conservatism.  What have you done on civil issues?

For one I am the sponsor of the Legalization of LSD bill, I favor giving students a choice in schools, and I favored removing all restrictions on buying hypodermic needles.

[King]

Some Libertarian you are, DWTL.

This organization is far from libertarian, my votes are very libertarian as I have voted against all increases in spending, and for choices when then no tax increase is involved

That's not being libertarian.  That's just conservatism.  What have you done on civil issues?

For one I am the sponsor of the Legalization of LSD bill, I favor giving students a choice in schools, and I favored removing all restrictions on buying hypodermic needles.

That's still not enough examples of it, but regardless this looks more like a Progressive support poll than a Libertarian one.

[Hatman 🍁]

Supporting civil liberties is a huge part of libertarianism. Without it, you're just a republican.

Of course, we all know you just have a yellow avatar to be cool.

[Ebowed]

I favored removing all restrictions on buying hypodermic needles.

That was factored into your score.  Favoring or sponsoring certain legislation didn't count, however, as I focused only on votes.

Could you provide us with the specific roll-call votes (or a link(s) to them) used to grade these senators?

I compiled an informal score in Notepad on 15 different votes, 12 of which were final passage for bills considered in the last 4 Senates.  Don't have any raw data with me at the time.

[Rob]

I understand this is more about issues than performance, but he should at least be docked 10 points for truancy.

No one likes a sore loser, King.

I've been busy. With stuff in the real world. I'm sure you're disappointed that I'm rarely around to buttress the left, but never fear- I should be active again soon.

[DownWithTheLeft]

This report card should be the called the "How Often Did I Agree With Ebowed?" Score

[Ebowed]

This report card should be the called the "How Often Did I Agree With Ebowed?" Score

I looked at a dozen social issues voted on by the Senate and graded how libertarian everyone voted.  It's well-known that you aren't a civil libertarian by any standard, so why did you expect a different score?

[King]

I understand this is more about issues than performance, but he should at least be docked 10 points for truancy.

No one likes a sore loser, King.

I've been busy. With stuff in the real world. I'm sure you're disappointed that I'm rarely around to buttress the left, but never fear- I should be active again soon.

Please don't try to make me look like the bad guy by throwing out the "I'm busy in the real world, sore loser" stuff at me.  Yes, the real world can be nice and I enjoy it myself, in fact, I left this place for two whole years to enjoy it.  However, it just bugs me that somebody would come here, be elected three times, do nothing, and nobody care.  I'm sure if I had managed to beat you and disappeared, Porce would've had me motioned for expulsion two weeks ago and rightfully so.  If you don't have time to play the game, then just don't or at least take a leave of absence.

[Sam Spade]

33% seems a bit high to me - I don't want to lose my populist image.  I've got to figure out some way to lower this average, though I'm sure Ebowed will provide me with plenty of ways. 

[Ebowed]

I'm sure if I had managed to beat you and disappeared, Porce would've had me motioned for expulsion two weeks ago and rightfully so.

For the record, the expulsion purges had nothing to do with politics.  We got rid of two decidedly liberal posters, and one moderate.  (All of them voted for me for PPT.)

[King]

I'm sure if I had managed to beat you and disappeared, Porce would've had me motioned for expulsion two weeks ago and rightfully so.

For the record, the expulsion purges had nothing to do with politics.  We got rid of two decidedly liberal posters, and one moderate.  (All of them voted for me for PPT.)

Ok then.