Iraqi parliament adjourns for August

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With all due respect, the people responsible for the problems in Iraq are the death squads and the terrorists.

So the death squads and the terrorists made the Iraqi Parliament go on vacations while US pay for efforts in both blood and money to buy them time to resolve their differences? Interesting take - but I think not.

Consider for a moment that their vacation has been considerably cut and that Iraq in August is rather hot.

Anyhow, Al-Qaeda couldn't care less how long the Iraqi Parliament spends on its holidays.

Is it not HOT for our soldiers is full combat gear running missions in the open desert and getting killed to buy the Iraqi Parliament time? When do our soldiers get a collective vacation? I'll tell you when - when the job is done - should we expect less from the people they are being killed for?

What does Al-Qaeda have to do with the Iraqi Parliament taking a vacation? Do you think we are going to solve their Al-Qaeda problem? We can only contain the problem until they are able to deal with it. Their vacation simply increases the time our soldiers are put at risk and dollars US tax payers have to spend - and that's billions every single month. As I said before - every single soldier that dies this month and every single dollar we spend this month will be for the sake of the Iraqi Parliaments vacation. I'm glad that works for you - it doesn't work for me, not at all.

[Silent Hunter]

With all due respect, the people responsible for the problems in Iraq are the death squads and the terrorists.

So the death squads and the terrorists made the Iraqi Parliament go on vacations while US pay for efforts in both blood and money to buy them time to resolve their differences? Interesting take - but I think not.

Consider for a moment that their vacation has been considerably cut and that Iraq in August is rather hot.

Anyhow, Al-Qaeda couldn't care less how long the Iraqi Parliament spends on its holidays.

Is it not HOT for our soldiers is full combat gear running missions in the open desert and getting killed to buy the Iraqi Parliament time? When do our soldiers get a collective vacation? I'll tell you when - when the job is done - should we expect less from the people they are being killed for?

What does Al-Qaeda have to do with the Iraqi Parliament taking a vacation? Do you think we are going to solve their Al-Qaeda problem? We can only contain the problem until they are able to deal with it. Their vacation simply increases the time our soldiers are put at risk and dollars US tax payers have to spend - and that's billions every single month. As I said before - every single soldier that dies this month and every single dollar we spend this month will be for the sake of the Iraqi Parliaments vacation. I'm glad that works for you - it doesn't work for me, not at all.

It will be for the sake of a lot of other things as well.

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With all due respect, the people responsible for the problems in Iraq are the death squads and the terrorists.

So the death squads and the terrorists made the Iraqi Parliament go on vacations while US pay for efforts in both blood and money to buy them time to resolve their differences? Interesting take - but I think not.

Consider for a moment that their vacation has been considerably cut and that Iraq in August is rather hot.

Anyhow, Al-Qaeda couldn't care less how long the Iraqi Parliament spends on its holidays.

Is it not HOT for our soldiers is full combat gear running missions in the open desert and getting killed to buy the Iraqi Parliament time? When do our soldiers get a collective vacation? I'll tell you when - when the job is done - should we expect less from the people they are being killed for?

What does Al-Qaeda have to do with the Iraqi Parliament taking a vacation? Do you think we are going to solve their Al-Qaeda problem? We can only contain the problem until they are able to deal with it. Their vacation simply increases the time our soldiers are put at risk and dollars US tax payers have to spend - and that's billions every single month. As I said before - every single soldier that dies this month and every single dollar we spend this month will be for the sake of the Iraqi Parliaments vacation. I'm glad that works for you - it doesn't work for me, not at all.

It will be for the sake of a lot of other things as well.

No, they will not be dying for anything else. Because without a politcal solution the rest is meaningless. The terrorists are simply blending into the sectarian conflict - until the sectarian conflict is ended we can not even begin to resolve other issues, and the sectarian conflict can only be resolved using diplomacy (that or we need to take sides in their conflict - then a military solution would be available). And that's what the Iraqi Parliamnet is supposed to be doing - not that they were doing it before they went on vacation, but there isn't even a glimmer of hope they will be doing it while they are on vacation.

[Silent Hunter]

The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

I'd hardly call preventing a suicide bombing killing 100 people meaningless.

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The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

[Silent Hunter]

The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

Reversing some of the mistakes made during the invasion, for example.

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The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

Reversing some of the mistakes made during the invasion, for example.

Nearly every single session of Parliament since November of last year has been adjourned because of lack of a quorum - they don't even bother to show up when they are not on vacation. Of the 275 members of the Iraqi Parliament, less than 65 have been showing up on a regular basis. The ones that don't bother to show up are still collecting their salaries and benefits worth about $120,000 a year mind you, but nothing has been getting done. They have essentially done nothing for the last year - nothing, because not enough of them have been showing up for work to have the quorum needed to pass legislation. So let's not pretend they have been getting "things" done - they have not.

[Silent Hunter]

The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

Reversing some of the mistakes made during the invasion, for example.

Nearly every single session of Parliament since November of last year has been adjourned because of lack of a quorum - they don't even bother to show up when they are not on vacation. Of the 275 members of the Iraqi Parliament, less than 65 have been showing up on a regular basis. The ones that don't bother to show up are still collecting their salaries and benefits worth about $120,000 a year mind you, but nothing has been getting done. They have essentially done nothing for the last year - nothing, because not enough of them have been showing up for work to have the quorum needed to pass legislation. So let's not pretend they have been getting "things" done - they have not.

I'd like to see some evidence for that, but I was mistaken earlier. It's the Iraqi government that's been doing those things.

If the Iraqi Parliament's members are useless, then they should be voted out at the next Iraqi elections.

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The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

Reversing some of the mistakes made during the invasion, for example.

Nearly every single session of Parliament since November of last year has been adjourned because of lack of a quorum - they don't even bother to show up when they are not on vacation. Of the 275 members of the Iraqi Parliament, less than 65 have been showing up on a regular basis. The ones that don't bother to show up are still collecting their salaries and benefits worth about $120,000 a year mind you, but nothing has been getting done. They have essentially done nothing for the last year - nothing, because not enough of them have been showing up for work to have the quorum needed to pass legislation. So let's not pretend they have been getting "things" done - they have not.

I'd like to see some evidence for that, but I was mistaken earlier. It's the Iraqi government that's been doing those things.

Here's a random sample of articles that show up when you google search "Iraqi Parliamnet - Quorum" and "Iraqi Parliament - boycott". Since you clearly don't follow the Iraqi Parliament at all - the big news before they went on vacation was that the Sunnis just ended a 5 week boycott of parliament, before that, the news was simply that nobody was showing up.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/24/news/web.0124noshow.php

http://www.iraqinews.com/articlenews.php?id=2643

http://johnib.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/iraqs-dysfunctional-parliament/

http://chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-07/20/content_5439725.htm

[Silent Hunter]

The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

Reversing some of the mistakes made during the invasion, for example.

Nearly every single session of Parliament since November of last year has been adjourned because of lack of a quorum - they don't even bother to show up when they are not on vacation. Of the 275 members of the Iraqi Parliament, less than 65 have been showing up on a regular basis. The ones that don't bother to show up are still collecting their salaries and benefits worth about $120,000 a year mind you, but nothing has been getting done. They have essentially done nothing for the last year - nothing, because not enough of them have been showing up for work to have the quorum needed to pass legislation. So let's not pretend they have been getting "things" done - they have not.

I'd like to see some evidence for that, but I was mistaken earlier. It's the Iraqi government that's been doing those things.

Here's a random sample of articles that show up when you google search "Iraqi Parliamnet - Quorum" and "Iraqi Parliament - boycott". Since you clearly don't follow the Iraqi Parliament at all - the big news before they went on vacation was that the Sunnis just ended a 5 week boycott of parliament, before that, the news was simply that nobody was showing up.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/24/news/web.0124noshow.php

http://www.iraqinews.com/articlenews.php?id=2643

http://johnib.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/iraqs-dysfunctional-parliament/

http://chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-07/20/content_5439725.htm

Thank you. I don't agree now about them taking a vacation, but that does not mean that Coalition forces aren't doing something worthwhile.

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If the Iraqi Parliament's members are useless, then they should be voted out at the next Iraqi elections.

Yeah, and maybe the US should elect some worthy leaders as well - but it is not likely to happen even here where the people have at least some limited understanding of our system of government. Good luck with that. I'm afraid I can not support keeping US troops there that long or on such a whimsical basis.

[nlm]

The Iraqi Parliament were doing things. Sure they weren't doing things that quickly, but they were definitely doing things.

What "things"? And they sure are not doing "things" now that they are on vacation - at least not "things" that help our soldiers.

Reversing some of the mistakes made during the invasion, for example.

Nearly every single session of Parliament since November of last year has been adjourned because of lack of a quorum - they don't even bother to show up when they are not on vacation. Of the 275 members of the Iraqi Parliament, less than 65 have been showing up on a regular basis. The ones that don't bother to show up are still collecting their salaries and benefits worth about $120,000 a year mind you, but nothing has been getting done. They have essentially done nothing for the last year - nothing, because not enough of them have been showing up for work to have the quorum needed to pass legislation. So let's not pretend they have been getting "things" done - they have not.

I'd like to see some evidence for that, but I was mistaken earlier. It's the Iraqi government that's been doing those things.

Here's a random sample of articles that show up when you google search "Iraqi Parliamnet - Quorum" and "Iraqi Parliament - boycott". Since you clearly don't follow the Iraqi Parliament at all - the big news before they went on vacation was that the Sunnis just ended a 5 week boycott of parliament, before that, the news was simply that nobody was showing up.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/24/news/web.0124noshow.php

http://www.iraqinews.com/articlenews.php?id=2643

http://johnib.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/iraqs-dysfunctional-parliament/

http://chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-07/20/content_5439725.htm

Thank you. I don't agree now about them taking a vacation, but that does not mean that Coalition forces aren't doing something worthwhile.

If you consider our troops getting killed to buy time for the Iraqi government to end the sectarian conflict that they are not even trying to end "worthwhile" - then I guess it is "worthwhile" to you.