Beshear: "If... I could bring people together more nationally, that's something I'd really consider"

[Bush did 311]

If Democrats were actually scared of Trump ending democracy, they’d choose him or Whitmer. Hard to take those calls seriously if they stick with Biden/Harris.

It's also hard to take those calls of "saving democracy" seriously when the party's fringe wants to pack the court and the party works to try to keep RFK and other candidates off the ballot in key states.

The court's already been destroyed at this point. They've decided they have the power to play calvinball and write unconstitutional powers or limitations into Congress and the Presidency. This disrupts the balance of powers. What do we do? I want a nonpartisan apolitical court but how do we get there?

[Biden Derangement Syndrome Haver]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

[DaleCooper]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

Not only do they not want to defeat Trump, but they never have.

The Hillary people didn't, the Bernie Bros didn't, the Biden people don't, the Democratic establishment doesn't. You can't look at their commentary and decision-making over the last eight years and tell me with a straight face that they care at all about beating Donald Trump.

[heatcharger]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Thank you.

[jojoju1998]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

Not only do they not want to defeat Trump, but they never have.

The Hillary people didn't, the Bernie Bros didn't, the Biden people don't, the Democratic establishment doesn't. You can't look at their commentary and decision-making over the last eight years and tell me with a straight face that they care at all about beating Donald Trump.

Democrats lack a FDR figure with the experience, knowledge, and poltiical ruthlessness to push forward a transformative agenda, and make the democratic party the governing party for the next 40 years.

[DaleCooper]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

Not only do they not want to defeat Trump, but they never have.

The Hillary people didn't, the Bernie Bros didn't, the Biden people don't, the Democratic establishment doesn't. You can't look at their commentary and decision-making over the last eight years and tell me with a straight face that they care at all about beating Donald Trump.

Democrats lack a FDR figure with the experience, knowledge, and poltiical ruthlessness to push forward a transformative agenda, and make the democratic party the governing party for the next 40 years.

This is part of the problem right here. Their brains are fried on pop history gobbledygook, so they're always looking for the next somebody (FDR, JFK, the fabled Democratic Reagan) instead of just putting together a coherent platform that their party can represent and then selecting a qualified, empathetic candidate who can run on it.

[jojoju1998]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

Not only do they not want to defeat Trump, but they never have.

The Hillary people didn't, the Bernie Bros didn't, the Biden people don't, the Democratic establishment doesn't. You can't look at their commentary and decision-making over the last eight years and tell me with a straight face that they care at all about beating Donald Trump.

Democrats lack a FDR figure with the experience, knowledge, and poltiical ruthlessness to push forward a transformative agenda, and make the democratic party the governing party for the next 40 years.

This is part of the problem right here. Their brains are fried on pop history gobbledygook, so they're always looking for the next somebody (FDR, JFK, the fabled Democratic Reagan) instead of just putting together a coherent platform that their party can represent and then selecting a qualified, empathetic candidate who can run on it.

But that's my point. Democrats up until recently, in 2018, never developed the type of political talent, that WOULD lead to an FDR.

Under Obama, the Democratic Party lost a thousand seats in the State Legislatures, and the Governorships were wiped out.

[DaleCooper]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

Not only do they not want to defeat Trump, but they never have.

The Hillary people didn't, the Bernie Bros didn't, the Biden people don't, the Democratic establishment doesn't. You can't look at their commentary and decision-making over the last eight years and tell me with a straight face that they care at all about beating Donald Trump.

Democrats lack a FDR figure with the experience, knowledge, and poltiical ruthlessness to push forward a transformative agenda, and make the democratic party the governing party for the next 40 years.

This is part of the problem right here. Their brains are fried on pop history gobbledygook, so they're always looking for the next somebody (FDR, JFK, the fabled Democratic Reagan) instead of just putting together a coherent platform that their party can represent and then selecting a qualified, empathetic candidate who can run on it.

But that's my point. Democrats up until recently, in 2018, never developed the type of political talent, that WOULD lead to an FDR.

Under Obama, the Democratic Party lost a thousand seats in the State Legislatures, and the Governorships were wiped out.

I think I get what you're saying. I may have misunderstood.

[jojoju1998]

I like Andy Beshear as KY Governor. But for president? Nah, he's too moderate for my tastes.

Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

Not only do they not want to defeat Trump, but they never have.

The Hillary people didn't, the Bernie Bros didn't, the Biden people don't, the Democratic establishment doesn't. You can't look at their commentary and decision-making over the last eight years and tell me with a straight face that they care at all about beating Donald Trump.

Democrats lack a FDR figure with the experience, knowledge, and poltiical ruthlessness to push forward a transformative agenda, and make the democratic party the governing party for the next 40 years.

This is part of the problem right here. Their brains are fried on pop history gobbledygook, so they're always looking for the next somebody (FDR, JFK, the fabled Democratic Reagan) instead of just putting together a coherent platform that their party can represent and then selecting a qualified, empathetic candidate who can run on it.

But that's my point. Democrats up until recently, in 2018, never developed the type of political talent, that WOULD lead to an FDR.

Under Obama, the Democratic Party lost a thousand seats in the State Legislatures, and the Governorships were wiped out.

I think I get what you're saying. I may have misunderstood.

Like 2016, and 2020 showed it. That Hillary AND Biden were the best out of the field ? Really ? Bernie Sanders ? Sure. But that's a complex situation. And he's even older, and i don't know if his health would have held up the last 4 years, had he became President.

Martin O Malley ? Pete Buttegieg ?



Nothing like the star bench we have now.  Warnock. Walz. Whitmer. Even Newsom !

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Oh my god. Are we really going to be doing policy purity tests if Biden does step down and there is a replacement?

Absolutely tf not. Do you want to defeat Trump or not?

You need to chill out.

I never said that I wouldn't vote for him (if Biden steps aside and Beshear somehow becomes the nominee); he is just not among my preferred replacements for Biden.

[KYRockefeller]

If Democrats were actually scared of Trump ending democracy, they’d choose him or Whitmer. Hard to take those calls seriously if they stick with Biden/Harris.

It's also hard to take those calls of "saving democracy" seriously when the party's fringe wants to pack the court and the party works to try to keep RFK and other candidates off the ballot in key states.

The court's already been destroyed at this point. They've decided they have the power to play calvinball and write unconstitutional powers or limitations into Congress and the Presidency. This disrupts the balance of powers. What do we do? I want a nonpartisan apolitical court but how do we get there?

I think if you started to impose a term limit where justices had to retire after they hit 70 years old or after some benchmark of 16 years or so that might help.  But would that require simply a new Judiciary Act or a constitutional amendment?

[MSG]

Packing the court for me at least is the only non violent non terroristic way to get a new judiciary act. Every party coming into power would pack the court until both sides want a detente and the judiciary act of 2042 can be worked out.

At present we have two corrupt member who flaunt their corruption, two perjurers who under most bar association guidelines would be disbarred for lying under oath, a guy sitting in a stolen seat, a spineless hack who presides over it all protecting this motley crew of American hating jurists.

Lawfare started in 2000, was given steroids in 16, and taken to its extreme in 20. However the dems choose to fight back sans violence is fair game you all started it. Soon dems will come to my camp we just need liberal boomers and their mollifying we go high nature to move on.