NY judge finds Trump committed fraud -- UPDATE: fined over $350 million
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« Reply #600 on: April 16, 2024, 01:44:51 AM »

Relax guys he had a Schwab account worth $175 million......10 years ago. I mean it's upstanding businessman trump we're talking about; surely nothing has happened to the value/balance of that account since then.
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« Reply #601 on: April 19, 2024, 02:33:15 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2024, 02:42:40 PM by brucejoel99 »

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« Reply #602 on: April 20, 2024, 12:59:56 AM »



Would be wild if the judge does declare the bond void and trump essentially has all of Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday of next week to shop around and find someone else dumb enough to promise to cover his judgement. He'll be in court every other day pretty much preventing him from dealing with this.
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« Reply #603 on: April 20, 2024, 08:35:59 AM »




Would be wild if the judge does declare the bond void and trump essentially has all of Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday of next week to shop around and find someone else dumb enough to promise to cover his judgement. He'll be in court every other day pretty much preventing him from dealing with this.

Surely his lawyers are doing all that and not Trump personally.
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« Reply #604 on: April 20, 2024, 10:42:33 AM »




Would be wild if the judge does declare the bond void and trump essentially has all of Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday of next week to shop around and find someone else dumb enough to promise to cover his judgement. He'll be in court every other day pretty much preventing him from dealing with this.

Surely his lawyers are doing all that and not Trump personally.

Donald's bond in the E. Jean Carroll case was thanks to Chubb CEO and New York Businessman Even Greenberg, who was appointed to the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations by Donald Trump.

Donald's (questionable) bond in the fraud case is from Knight Specialty Insurance Company, part of the Hankey Group, led by Don Hankey. Hankey holds an estimated 6% of the shares in Axos Bank (making him its single largest shareholder), which refinanced Trump's loans on his Doral & Trump Tower properties to the tune of hundreds of millions.

In other words, it appears that Donald Trump has leveraged his personal connections to get his bonds (because most lenders seemingly don't want to lend to a guy who lies about his assets and doesn't pay what he owes). While his lawyers can try to be his proxies, they will lack Donald's unique force of personality & persuasive abilities. Obviously Trump can try to work his contacts outside of court hours. But having a huge block of his limited timeframe where he's planted in a seat and can't make phone calls or meet with potential bond issuers certainly isn't going to help him.

That's only if Engoron tosses the existing bond, of course.
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« Reply #605 on: April 21, 2024, 01:04:18 AM »




Would be wild if the judge does declare the bond void and trump essentially has all of Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday of next week to shop around and find someone else dumb enough to promise to cover his judgement. He'll be in court every other day pretty much preventing him from dealing with this.

Surely his lawyers are doing all that and not Trump personally.

Donald's bond in the E. Jean Carroll case was thanks to Chubb CEO and New York Businessman Even Greenberg, who was appointed to the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations by Donald Trump.

Donald's (questionable) bond in the fraud case is from Knight Specialty Insurance Company, part of the Hankey Group, led by Don Hankey. Hankey holds an estimated 6% of the shares in Axos Bank (making him its single largest shareholder), which refinanced Trump's loans on his Doral & Trump Tower properties to the tune of hundreds of millions.

In other words, it appears that Donald Trump has leveraged his personal connections to get his bonds (because most lenders seemingly don't want to lend to a guy who lies about his assets and doesn't pay what he owes). While his lawyers can try to be his proxies, they will lack Donald's unique force of personality & persuasive abilities. Obviously Trump can try to work his contacts outside of court hours. But having a huge block of his limited timeframe where he's planted in a seat and can't make phone calls or meet with potential bond issuers certainly isn't going to help him.

That's only if Engoron tosses the existing bond, of course.

What he said. trump and his lawyers are not exactly going through legitimate business channels to get these bonds and to refinance his loans. The only kind of outfit he can attract to guarantee his debt and judgements is special interest weirdos who desperately want a potential POTUS to owe them a favor.
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« Reply #606 on: April 22, 2024, 08:33:19 AM »

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« Reply #607 on: April 22, 2024, 09:47:29 AM »




There's one secret trick you can use to figure out that Donald Trump is lying here:

his mouth is moving.
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« Reply #608 on: April 22, 2024, 10:32:16 AM »

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« Reply #609 on: April 22, 2024, 10:46:31 AM »

Wait what? So the state is now not concerned with the fishy records Knight has?
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« Reply #610 on: April 22, 2024, 10:49:12 AM »

Ahh, oh well I guess lol.
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