Echelon: Trump +4% : +5% in swing states

[Redban]

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1714289961066016929

[Redban]

Crosstabs for the poll unskewers.

It’s time to dig into those black-voter and young-voter crosstabs to dismiss the poll (hurry up now)

https://netchoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/NetChoice_Echelon-Polling_Oct2023_FTC-Survey-Crosstabs.pdf

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Crosstabs for the poll unskewers.

It’s time to dig into those black-voter and young-voter crosstabs to dismiss the poll (hurry up now)

https://netchoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/NetChoice_Echelon-Polling_Oct2023_FTC-Survey-Crosstabs.pdf

Blk voters aren't voting for Trump in MI, WI And Pa with Casey leading by 8 you are really into Trump leads and he isn't gonna give you a stimulus check I told you about believing in polls 400 day out s and Trials of Trump haven't even started yet


It's a 303 map if Biden was losing all the polls would have him losing not just R polls

[Respect and Compassion]

*sigh*

so many people on Election Twitter and this forum are treating this like another 2012 when it's more likely at this point to be a reverse 1992 (I would say reverse 2020 but I don't expect it to be close in the electoral college; perhaps it'll be a reverse 2020 in the popular vote and downballot Dems doing better than expected)

Didn't Echelon way underestimate Trump's 2020 performance?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

*sigh*

so many people on Election Twitter and this forum are treating this like another 2012 when it's more likely at this point to be a reverse 1992 (I would say reverse 2020 but I don't expect it to be close in the electoral college; perhaps it'll be a reverse 2020 in the popular vote and downballot Dems doing better than expected)

Lol it's 400vdays and it's not 2016 you always root for Rs Trump is behind in D polls and ahead in R polls

Didn't Echelon way underestimate Trump's 2020 performance?

400 days out and it's MOE

[Red Wall]

GOP leading the GCB and Trump outperforming in swing states. Trump winning 303 evs with the gop winning 54-56 senate seats is very likely.

[President Johnson]

It's early and the campaign hasn't really started yet, though these numbers lately are discouraging. Maybe I and others have been overly optimistic over Biden's chances in recent months. It seems at least for now a decent junk of the elecorate wants neither Biden nor Trump and there's little appetite for a rematch.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's early and the campaign hasn't really started yet, though these numbers lately are discouraging. Maybe I and others have been overly optimistic over Biden's chances in recent months. It seems at least for now a decent junk of the elecorate wants neither Biden nor Trump and there's little appetite for a rematch.

It's not discouraging when you know Slotkin, Baldwin and Casey are gonna to win and Brown and Tester we have 218 DH and Tied S and 303 Prez we are the underdogs in red states but there could be split voting. In order for Biden to have had a clear shot in red states if COVID was over

Every Ds know it's a 303 map it's VBM and our GOTV is better than Rs in 303 not red states anyways

Only Redban thinks Trump is gonna win WI but the state Legislature in WI is gonna flip D because Ds have control of redistricting in WI, PA, MI

[MR DARK BRANDON]

It's early and the campaign hasn't really started yet, though these numbers lately are discouraging. Maybe I and others have been overly optimistic over Biden's chances in recent months. It seems at least for now a decent junk of the elecorate wants neither Biden nor Trump and there's little appetite for a rematch.

Yeah, that’s why these polls are worthless ATM. Due to the high undecideds, once it sets in that it’s a Biden trump rematch, you’ll start to see different polls. (Also there was a morning consult that has Biden up)

[Alben Barkley]

It's early and the campaign hasn't really started yet, though these numbers lately are discouraging. Maybe I and others have been overly optimistic over Biden's chances in recent months. It seems at least for now a decent junk of the elecorate wants neither Biden nor Trump and there's little appetite for a rematch.

That's why to me the obvious thing to do is to prevent there being a rematch. If the Democrats nominate Whitmer et al. instead, then all of a sudden we'll be the ones with the fresh new alternative while the Republicans will be the ones with the old demented rehash. That Michigan poll showing Whitmer beating Trump as badly as Trump was beating Biden was a real eye-opener.

[Tekken_Guy]

It's early and the campaign hasn't really started yet, though these numbers lately are discouraging. Maybe I and others have been overly optimistic over Biden's chances in recent months. It seems at least for now a decent junk of the elecorate wants neither Biden nor Trump and there's little appetite for a rematch.

That's why to me the obvious thing to do is to prevent there being a rematch. If the Democrats nominate Whitmer et al. instead, then all of a sudden we'll be the ones with the fresh new alternative while the Republicans will be the ones with the old demented rehash. That Michigan poll showing Whitmer beating Trump as badly as Trump was beating Biden was a real eye-opener.

Then maybe they should start polling Trump against other non-Biden democrats to see if there is really a Biden problem for Democrats.