CDC drops mammoth study on post-COVID-vaccine myocarditis

[Steve from Lambeth]

https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1765852724606726557

[Flats the Flounder]

Anybody discussing this who isn't from the Epoch Times?

[Ferguson97]

Anybody discussing this who isn't from the Epoch Times?

Or who doesn’t put vaccination in quotation marks?

[Arizona Iced Tea]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

[7,052,770]

We'll see if it ever turns out that there is some kind of negative side effect from the COVID vaccines. Maybe there will be, although I'll be pretty surprised if it's something that's not even more likely from COVID itself.

But either way, I think it's safe to say it won't be anywhere near the >1% death rate for Americans who refused the vaccine, probably not by multiple levels of magnitude.

[7,052,770]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

That's pretty short-sighted, considering how you aren't one of the 800,000 (and counting) Americans who refused the vaccine and then died, and you didn't help spread it to the unvaccinated people in your life - perhaps you saved them from joining that 800,000 themselves.

Don't let a bunch of pundits (all of whom are vaccinated themselves) ever tell you you did the wrong thing.

[Neo-Malthusian Misanthrope]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

That's pretty short-sighted, considering how you aren't one of the 800,000 (and counting) Americans who refused the vaccine and then died, and you didn't help spread it to the unvaccinated people in your life - perhaps you saved them from joining that 800,000 themselves.

Don't let a bunch of pundits (all of whom are vaccinated themselves) ever tell you you did the wrong thing.

I thought it was basically settled that vaccination didn't actually prevent spread? Or was that only with certain later variants.

[jojoju1998]

My Family Doctor ( who voted for Biden ), warned me against getting the Covid Booser, because as a young adult, I am at a higher risk for myocarditis.

[7,052,770]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

That's pretty short-sighted, considering how you aren't one of the 800,000 (and counting) Americans who refused the vaccine and then died, and you didn't help spread it to the unvaccinated people in your life - perhaps you saved them from joining that 800,000 themselves.

Don't let a bunch of pundits (all of whom are vaccinated themselves) ever tell you you did the wrong thing.

I thought it was basically settled that vaccination didn't actually prevent spread? Or was that only with certain later variants.

I believe the consensus is that it reduced spread, but not to 0, with varying error bars depending on which vaccine and which variant. And even if it didn't at all, a vaccinated person was also less likely to get the disease in the first place, and you can't spread what you don't have.

[Neo-Malthusian Misanthrope]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

That's pretty short-sighted, considering how you aren't one of the 800,000 (and counting) Americans who refused the vaccine and then died, and you didn't help spread it to the unvaccinated people in your life - perhaps you saved them from joining that 800,000 themselves.

Don't let a bunch of pundits (all of whom are vaccinated themselves) ever tell you you did the wrong thing.

I thought it was basically settled that vaccination didn't actually prevent spread? Or was that only with certain later variants.

I believe the consensus is that it reduced spread, but not to 0, with varying error bars depending on which vaccine and which variant. And even if it didn't at all, a vaccinated person was also less likely to get the disease in the first place, and you can't spread what you don't have.

Fair! I was under the impression you could carry the virus but be asymptomatic even with vaccination. Makes sense vaccination would reduce that likelihood.

Anyway, as for the actual topic at hand, I'm waiting for a more reputable source as well.

[emailking]

Here's a document from the same request that is not quite as redacted.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24464054-cdc-moving-foia-2

Anyway, the mRNA from the vaccines clears from your system within a few days I think. It would be hard to fathom that there could be a systematic long term effect that we have not seen by now.

[leonardothered]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

Polio also regrets it, really kicked the legs out from under them

[Ferguson97]

I regret taking the vaccine honestly.

Why?

[It’s so Joever]

Here's a document from the same request that is not quite as redacted.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24464054-cdc-moving-foia-2

Anyway, the mRNA from the vaccines clears from your system within a few days I think. It would be hard to fathom that there could be a systematic long term effect that we have not seen by now.

Thank you for once again being one of the few effort posters here.

[GP270watch]

 Data already has shown that getting a covid infection has more risk for developing myocarditis for most people. Covid-19 vaccines are obviously broadly safe, too many people took them. If there were some huge side effects we would be seeing them show up at hospitals. Nowhere is this happening.

 Covid infections on the other hand overwhelmed the worldwide hospital systems and caused at least 7 million people to die.

[emailking]

I'm concerned on why they would drop the study, but the risk of myocarditis is lower from the vaccine than it would've been if someone got Covid.

Oh, I thought the OP meant drop as in "released" not  abandoned.

[Vice President Christian Man]

I'm concerned on why they would drop the study, but the risk of myocarditis is lower from the vaccine than it would've been if someone got Covid.

Oh, I thought the OP meant drop as in "released" not  abandoned.

I must have read it wrong but I stand by the myocarditis statement.