Do we have too many Ivy League grads in politics ?
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« on: August 11, 2023, 12:10:18 PM »

Biden is the first non Ivy League President since Ronald Reagan.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2023, 01:22:21 PM »

Identity politics won’t change the fact that it wouldn’t really impact things or make things better, there are many non-Ivy league politicians who suck or act similarly to Ivy grads and there are some diamonds in the rough with Ivy grads.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2023, 01:32:15 PM »

The Ivy League is literally just an athletic conference. Is anyone saying that we should have fewer Big Ten or SEC alumni in politics?
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2023, 01:36:15 PM »

I think so, but I also think that is something that will naturally shift with generational turnover. (Liberal)
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2023, 01:43:37 PM »

It speaks to the accessibility of office. The average voter probably is going to view an Ivy League education as a superior qualifier over a community college education (or less). Even voters of lower incomes and less education view people with elite education as more qualified.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2023, 01:46:27 PM »

It speaks to the accessibility of office. The average voter probably is going to view an Ivy League education as a superior qualifier over a community college education (or less). Even voters of lower incomes and less education view people with elite education as more qualified.


The UK is worse. Almost all of their Prime Ministers went Oxford or Cambridge; many studied specifically PPE, and many of them came from Eton.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2023, 07:10:22 PM »

The Ivy League is literally just an athletic conference. Is anyone saying that we should have fewer Big Ten or SEC alumni in politics?

If only one Supreme Court Justice in the last decade went to a non-SEC school, I think we'd be hearing about it, yeah.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2023, 07:26:09 PM »

The Ivy League is literally just an athletic conference.

How does it benefit the discussion to be deliberately obtuse?

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The term Ivy League is typically used beyond the sports context to refer to the eight schools as a group of elite colleges with connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2023, 12:07:02 AM »

The Ivy League is an American aristocracy, so yes.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2023, 12:17:13 AM »

Yes. Big name schools, in general, are so competitive that Ivy League schools are essentially = "Daddy's Money U", as legacies and "big name" families are greatly favored in admissions, as opposed to average working class Americans. A handful of schools that greatly favor the elites shouldn't be almost single handedly being the alma mater of major political figures.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2023, 12:29:41 AM »

Missing the forest for the trees. The more dangerous question is why are so many politicians rich?
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2023, 01:10:54 AM »

There are actual only 2 Ivies in the top 10 of this ranking. Top 8 if you limit it to the US.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2023, 04:30:35 AM »

Hey, let's take it easy on the Ivy's, guys.  We're normal people. We're just better than everybody else in every single possible way. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2023, 08:51:39 AM »

Biden is the first non Ivy League President since Ronald Reagan.

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The answer to your question is: Yes!

They have not helped this country and the lives of its people. They cannot, do not, and will not be able to relate to the majority of people in this nation as the overwhelming majority of these people come from different economic backgrounds…and their policies do not help. Not only that…they hurt. They hurt the majority of people in the United States.

We need much less of these people in U.S. politics.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2023, 09:05:30 AM »

Missing the forest for the trees. The more dangerous question is why are so many politicians rich?
That still doesn’t fix the problem of our nation being ran by oligarchs. Broke b••••es like Scott Walker and the recently deceased house rep from Florida prove it.
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