US approves chicken made from cultivated cells, the nation’s first ‘lab-grown’ meat

[Hermit For Peace]

What's the over/under on how many weeks from now until some semi-famous political pundit or politician implies "lab meat probably makes you trans" or something to that effect?

No, but it will probably turn you into a robot.

[John Dule]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

Weirdly unfunny and unempathetic post from you.

[dead0man]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

[Bismarck]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

Whole counties will lose their economic base. Land that can only be used for grazing cattle will be returned to waste. The price of corn and soybeans will plummet, destroying the economy of large swaths of the Midwest.

[dead0man]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

Whole counties will lose their economic base. Land that can only be used for grazing cattle will be returned to waste. The price of corn and soybeans will plummet, destroying the economy of large swaths of the Midwest.

so we shouldn't advance society to save jobs?  How very union of you.

[Skill and Chance]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

Whole counties will lose their economic base. Land that can only be used for grazing cattle will be returned to waste. The price of corn and soybeans will plummet, destroying the economy of large swaths of the Midwest.

Lowering the real price of food is pretty much always a net good, though, when there are still people who cannot afford enough food.

[Person Man]

This ends the vegetarian movement, makes money for billionaires, and feeds poor people. Win-win-win.

I don't know about that but we will take the W.

[Torie]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

Whole counties will lose their economic base. Land that can only be used for grazing cattle will be returned to waste. The price of corn and soybeans will plummet, destroying the economy of large swaths of the Midwest.

so we shouldn't advance society to save jobs?  How very union of you.

No government will be able to stop it if the cost advantage is significant enough.

[Person Man]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

Whole counties will lose their economic base. Land that can only be used for grazing cattle will be returned to waste. The price of corn and soybeans will plummet, destroying the economy of large swaths of the Midwest.

so we shouldn't advance society to save jobs?  How very union of you.

I mean, that is the one thing that this revolution does concern me about. It could potentially give people with nothing to lose even less to lose but then again, we can't really help people who don't want to be helped. Many of them don't want to be helped, if you believe the entire Global South narrative coming out of the Defense of Ukraine.

[GP270watch]

https://apnews.com/article/cultivated-meat-lab-grown-cell-based-a88ab8e0241712b501aa191cdbf6b39a

For the first time, U.S. regulators on Wednesday approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells, allowing two California companies to offer “lab-grown” meat to the nation’s restaurant tables and eventually, supermarket shelves.

The Agriculture Department gave the green light to Upside Foods and Good Meat, firms that had been racing to be the first in the U.S. to sell meat that doesn’t come from slaughtered animals — what’s now being referred to as “cell-cultivated” or “cultured” meat as it emerges from the laboratory and arrives on dinner plates.

The move launches a new era of meat production aimed at eliminating harm to animals and drastically reducing the environmental impacts of grazing, growing feed for animals and animal waste.

I will be curious to see how this develops. Not just because of an interview I saw from a researcher who said the tech for lab cultivated meat is nowhere near ready to be deployed at scale, but also to see whether this becomes yet another culture war flashpoint/conspiracy about how the WEF wants to ban real meat, and instead force people to eat fake meat (that turns kids gay, probably) cooked on electric stoves while trapped in 15-minute cities.

Anyone concerned about large amounts of artificial hormones being put into their bodies and the environment will be against it. Yes, most such people these days seem to be on the right.

As long as it's voluntary and their isn't any affirmative evidence it causes harm, I would say why not let it go to market?  The reasonable concern here would be that it quickly becomes the only type of meat available in many institutional settings due to various state laws and eventual inclusion in ESG scoring of publicly traded companies.

There is that, and more broadly that it will be promoted as more environmentally friendly than it really is simply because the costs are different than the ones we've been used to.
We can expect it to be better on some measures than factory farms, but worse overall than farms that treat their animals as part of a symbiotic ecological system (permaculture).  Hard to say what the impact will be on the latter: whether lab-grown meat will make it more difficult for those farms to compete, or will allow them to present themselves as the main alternative and expand their market.

 I think permaculture and ethically raised food products will be fine, people will always pay top dollar for craft and artisanal products. Look at how much people will pay for specialty meats, cheeses, wines, etc.

[GP270watch]

This nonsense is going to destroy the American farmer. We should ban it.

why would we want people working on farms more than we absolutely have to, it's a very dangerous job.  Plus, something is going to have to be grown to turn into meat, it's not just going to magically appear out of thin air, there will need to be some kind of base stock to turn into meat.  Perhaps if it's seaweed most farmers will be out of luck, but if it's some kind of hardy, easy to grow plant, well we're going to need someone to mind the robot tractors harvesting and planting it.  And as Crabby said, there will always be a niche market for people who want real food.  Even if there will be a lot of people who will call you a murderer for doing it.

but yes, we will need fewer farmers in the future, continuing a trend that has been around for more than 10,000 years (that has been accelerating over the last 170 years).

 You are exactly right, there is a special pulse that Canadian farmers have made a lot of money on because it's one of the feedstocks for the synthetic heme(what makes meat taste like meat) in many vegan products.

[jojoju1998]

The " Middle Class " Supermarkets will move to Lab Grown meats, while the " upscale " smaller grocery stores will instead move to " artisan " Chicken.