Estonian government approves and sends act legalizing same sex marriage to parliament

[Storr]

Majority of Estonian residents support same-sex marriage

"Overall, 53 percent of respondents supported same-sex marriage compared to 47 percent in the last survey carried out in 2021."

[Republican Party Stalwart]

This will if anything only push the rest of the World outside of the broader liberal "West" (Oceania, Asia, India, Islamic World/Greater Middle East, Africa, and Afro-Caribbean) further away from the US/EU/NATO-sphere and further towards Russia and China (or at least a "neutral" foreign policy).

...homosexuals getting married in a tiny european country will do that?

Not quite, but what may do that is the propaganda which the Russians or Chinese can create as a result. (Stuff along the lines of: "Because of the efforts of Western governments and NGO's, yet another country has been made to legally recognize homosexual marriage. This is what the West and America wants done to your country!")

[Cassius]

The Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic didn’t have same-sex marriage because of its membership of the Soviet Union 🤔.

It probably didn't help, mind.

Stalin in particular was strongly homophobic, classing gay sex as a "bourgeois perversion".

1. In addition to this, Estonia began to liberalize its laws on homosexuality as soon as it became independent.

2. Also worth pointing out, there is a linguistic divide in Estonia on support for same sex marriage. Most Estonian speakers are in favour of legalizing it, while most non-Estonian speakers are not. Non-Estonian speakers mostly refers to Russian speakers who are there as a result of Soviet control.

So I wouldn't say it's inaccurate to say that the USSR is a large part of why same-sex marriage not legal yet in Estonia.

Most Russians in Estonia along with many other ethnicities cannot vote on account of the racist “ancestry” provisions on citizenship.

Indeed, I have a good friend (still working bar jobs in the UK) whose father is effectively stateless because of these same provisions. But, yay, liberal nationalism!1!!1

[Upper Canada Tory]

The Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic didn’t have same-sex marriage because of its membership of the Soviet Union 🤔.

It probably didn't help, mind.

Stalin in particular was strongly homophobic, classing gay sex as a "bourgeois perversion".

1. In addition to this, Estonia began to liberalize its laws on homosexuality as soon as it became independent.

2. Also worth pointing out, there is a linguistic divide in Estonia on support for same sex marriage. Most Estonian speakers are in favour of legalizing it, while most non-Estonian speakers are not. Non-Estonian speakers mostly refers to Russian speakers who are there as a result of Soviet control.

So I wouldn't say it's inaccurate to say that the USSR is a large part of why same-sex marriage not legal yet in Estonia.

Most Russians in Estonia along with many other ethnicities cannot vote on account of the racist “ancestry” provisions on citizenship.

There are no 'racist ancestry' provisions on Estonian citizenship. The Estonian state has legal continuity of citizenship from the previous independent Estonian state in 1940. 1940-1991 was when Estonia was occupied, so anyone who immigrated to Estonia during that period of time (and their descendants) have to be naturalized, or they become stateless, unless they have another citizenship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_nationality_law#:~:text=Those%20seeking%20to%20become%20Estonian,with%20permanent%20residence%20in%20Estonia

Many of the ethnic Russians do have Estonian citizenship, but most of those who don't have Estonian citizenship are those who prefer to keep their Russian citizenship. Neither Estonia nor Russia allow dual citizenship, but Estonian citizens need a visa to travel to Russia, so some of the ethnic Russians prefer to keep their Russian citizenship to be able to travel to Russia (and give up the rights of Estonian citizens as a result).

Just as an example, in the city of Narva, which is almost entirely ethnically Russian, 47% of residents have Estonian citizenship, 36% have Russian citizenship and 15% are stateless.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narva

So many Russians in Estonia can vote, but the majority of those who do not willingly give up Estonian citizenship in exchange for Russian citizenship.

Additionally, ethnic Russians make up 22% of Estonian's population, while only 7% of Estonia's population are not citizens of the country, so it is statistically impossible that most of the country's ethnic Russians do not have Estonian citizenship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia

[Lord Halifax]

Most Russians in Estonia along with many other ethnicities cannot vote on account of the racist “ancestry” provisions on citizenship.

The ancestry provision is not based on ethnicity but on citizenship in the interwar Estonian state which the current Estonian state sees itself as a successor to.

8.2% of Estonia's population was ethnic Russians according to the 1934 census, the last conducted before the Soviet occupation and subsequent illegal annexation, and their descendants were treated no different than the descendants of ethnic Estonians.

[PSOL]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

[Lord Halifax]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

[PSOL]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

Denazification is always right. Cry more like lmao

[Lord Halifax]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

Denazification is always right. Cry more like lmao

Desovietization is always right. Cry more like lmao

[Estrella]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

Denazification is always right. Cry more like lmao

As they say to your sort of people in this part of the world: Чемодан-вокзал-Россия!

[Estrella]

Since we're on that topic, here's the real life version of PSOL's "random Western sovietboo goes full Black Hundreds" act: Guilietto Chiesa

Giulietto Chiesa was an Italian journalist, author, lecturer, and politician.

Chiesa began his career as a journalist in 1979, first as an editor for the Italian communist newspaper L'Unità and then serving as a Moscow correspondent for the same newspaper from 1980.

Concerning the 2008 conflict between Russia and Georgia, Chiesa stated that "Russia did precisely what had to be done."

In 2010, he produced two books, one called La Menzogna Nucleare (The Nuclear Lie), co-written with the physicist Guido Cosenza and the eco-physicist Luigi Sertorio.

In 2016, the French edition of The Storm has come was released. The book starts with a large preface which alleges there was a double false flag operation including both the Charlie Hebdo attack and the November 13 Paris attack.

In 2011 – in commemoration of the ten years after 9/11 - the publisher Piemme issued Zero 2. The Smoking Guns. The volume begins with a large essay focused on new evidence claiming to debunk the "official version" (commonly accepted history) on at least seven points and which were no longer mere questions and clues but instead very detailed indictments.

In April 2009, he was a candidate for the European Parliament elections in Latvia for the Party For Human Rights in United Latvia.

Chiesa's fellow MEP elected for For Human Rights etc (a front for the Latvian Russian Union) was Tatjana Ždanoka, one of the most prominent Russian activists in Latvia, who has exactly the sort of opinions you'd expect.

On 11 March 2014, Ždanoka and her party organized a rally at the European Commission Representation in Riga in support of the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, participated by about 200 people.

On 2 March 2022, she was one of 13 MEPs who voted against condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine. For this she was eventually forced to leave the European Greens–European Free Alliance group.

[PSOL]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

Denazification is always right. Cry more like lmao

Desovietization is always right. Cry more like lmao

Facts don’t care about your feelings and how the legacy can never be fully dismantled

[Lord Halifax]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

Denazification is always right. Cry more like lmao

Desovietization is always right. Cry more like lmao

Facts don’t care about your feelings and how the legacy can never be fully dismantled

it's not a matter of feelings but of facts, it's a fact that the current Estonian state sees itself as a continuation of the internationally recognized interwar Estonian state with the Soviet occupation and annexation being illegal, which is why it differentiates between the descendants of the pre-WW2 Russian minority (who all got citizenship) and the descendants of the Soviet era settlers. As such it's not discriminating along ethnic lines (which is what I assumed you meant by your original accusation of "racism", even though both groups are white), but based on objective legal criteria.

[Lord Halifax]

Doesn’t matter, those immigrants came there legally under the legal and rightfully put Estonian government.

nah, they came under the illegal Soviet occupation of the three Baltic states, there's nothing "rightful" about the Soviet occupation and subsequent annexation of three internationally recognized sovereign countries.

Denazification is always right. Cry more like lmao

the Soviet annexation happened in 1940 after agreement with the Nazis that some Estonians and Latvians later saw the Nazis as the lesser evil and fought in the Waffen SS can't be used to retroactively claim the Soviet annexation was "denazification".