John Neely Kennedy: Without the United States, Mexicans would be eating cat food

[DrScholl]

Friend, if you think I care in the slightest what you say about me you are mistaken.

Trump tried to repeal the MBDA in 2018 and was stopped by Democratic members of congress.

There has not been any even arguable federal governmental discrimination against non-whites in 60 years. State governmental, 40-50. There has, by contrast, been active discrimination against whites for the past several decades. Do you defend that?

I'm not concerned about being a minority: I am concerned about being racially discriminated against. Do you think racial discrimination is justified?

We aren't friends. It doesn't matter that Trump tried to repeal it that organization was still created by a Republican and Trump trying to repeal it just shows he is a racist. What White supremacists call discrimination is not being able to behave like the Klan did. Nobody is racially discriminating against you.  White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Friend, if you think I care in the slightest what you say about me you are mistaken.

Trump tried to repeal the MBDA in 2018 and was stopped by Democratic members of congress.

There has not been any even arguable federal governmental discrimination against non-whites in 60 years. State governmental, 40-50. There has, by contrast, been active discrimination against whites for the past several decades. Do you defend that?

I'm not concerned about being a minority: I am concerned about being racially discriminated against. Do you think racial discrimination is justified?

We aren't friends. It doesn't matter that Trump tried to repeal it that organization was still created by a Republican and Trump trying to repeal it just shows he is a racist. What White supremacists call discrimination is not being able to behave like the Klan did. Nobody is racially discriminating against you.  White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population.

It actually does matter: it shows that even though Nixon established the MBDA Democrats are the primary supporters of it today.

White people (including me, thus) are discriminated against in the US today. I posted several examples of that in practice above. You are arguing in response that that discrimination is good (because "White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population") but you are notably not disputing that that discrimination does occur. My original statement (that "Democrats are racist against white people") is thus correct because we both agree that Democrats do engage in discrimination against white people on the basis of their being white.

I would separately strongly disagree with your argument that that discrimination is good. When you say that racial discrimination against whites is justified because whites makes up a disproportionate share of certain certain professions or activities, you are both ignoring the many professions in which white people are not proportionally represented (for instance, should we have racial discrimination in favor of whites in basketball?) and asserting that meritorious outcomes are bad if they result in racially disproportionate results. You are wrong on both counts: the first is hypocritical, and the second ignores that meritorious outcomes help society at large and deliver the fairest results, even if the results are not proportional. With regards to the second one, you also ignore that racial discrimination on the part of government violates the Lockean social contract that is the basis of legitimate government as well as the United States Constitution, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race.

[DrScholl]

Friend, if you think I care in the slightest what you say about me you are mistaken.

Trump tried to repeal the MBDA in 2018 and was stopped by Democratic members of congress.

There has not been any even arguable federal governmental discrimination against non-whites in 60 years. State governmental, 40-50. There has, by contrast, been active discrimination against whites for the past several decades. Do you defend that?

I'm not concerned about being a minority: I am concerned about being racially discriminated against. Do you think racial discrimination is justified?

We aren't friends. It doesn't matter that Trump tried to repeal it that organization was still created by a Republican and Trump trying to repeal it just shows he is a racist. What White supremacists call discrimination is not being able to behave like the Klan did. Nobody is racially discriminating against you.  White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population.

It actually does matter: it shows that even though Nixon established the MBDA Democrats are the primary supporters of it today.

White people (including me, thus) are discriminated against in the US today. I posted several examples of that in practice above. You are arguing in response that that discrimination is good (because "White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population") but you are notably not disputing that that discrimination does occur. My original statement (that "Democrats are racist against white people") is thus correct because we both agree that Democrats do engage in discrimination against white people on the basis of their being white.

I would separately strongly disagree with your argument that that discrimination is good. When you say that racial discrimination against whites is justified because whites makes up a disproportionate share of certain certain professions or activities, you are both ignoring the many professions in which white people are not proportionally represented (for instance, should we have racial discrimination in favor of whites in basketball?) and asserting that meritorious outcomes are bad if they result in racially disproportionate results. You are wrong on both counts: the first is hypocritical, and the second ignores that meritorious outcomes help society at large and deliver the fairest results, even if the results are not proportional. With regards to the second one, you also ignore that racial discrimination on the part of government violates the Lockean social contract that is the basis of legitimate government as well as the United States Constitution, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race.

Programs that help minorities are not discrimination. Without decades up decades of systematic discrimination those programs wouldn't be needed, but they are needed to help make things more equal. They don't take anything away from White people.

Most of Congress is White, most judges are White, most CEOs are White, etc. so White people control most of what counts. Any industry that is most non-White isn't that way because Whites are excludes. It's either because they have no interest or low interest.

[Badger]

Friend, if you think I care in the slightest what you say about me you are mistaken.

Trump tried to repeal the MBDA in 2018 and was stopped by Democratic members of congress.

There has not been any even arguable federal governmental discrimination against non-whites in 60 years. State governmental, 40-50. There has, by contrast, been active discrimination against whites for the past several decades. Do you defend that?

I'm not concerned about being a minority: I am concerned about being racially discriminated against. Do you think racial discrimination is justified?

We aren't friends. It doesn't matter that Trump tried to repeal it that organization was still created by a Republican and Trump trying to repeal it just shows he is a racist. What White supremacists call discrimination is not being able to behave like the Klan did. Nobody is racially discriminating against you.  White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population.

It actually does matter: it shows that even though Nixon established the MBDA Democrats are the primary supporters of it today.

White people (including me, thus) are discriminated against in the US today. I posted several examples of that in practice above. You are arguing in response that that discrimination is good (because "White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population") but you are notably not disputing that that discrimination does occur. My original statement (that "Democrats are racist against white people") is thus correct because we both agree that Democrats do engage in discrimination against white people on the basis of their being white.

I would separately strongly disagree with your argument that that discrimination is good. When you say that racial discrimination against whites is justified because whites makes up a disproportionate share of certain certain professions or activities, you are both ignoring the many professions in which white people are not proportionally represented (for instance, should we have racial discrimination in favor of whites in basketball?) and asserting that meritorious outcomes are bad if they result in racially disproportionate results. You are wrong on both counts: the first is hypocritical, and the second ignores that meritorious outcomes help society at large and deliver the fairest results, even if the results are not proportional. With regards to the second one, you also ignore that racial discrimination on the part of government violates the Lockean social contract that is the basis of legitimate government as well as the United States Constitution, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race.

Programs that help minorities are not discrimination. Without decades up decades of systematic discrimination those programs wouldn't be needed, but they are needed to help make things more equal. They don't take anything away from White people.

Most of Congress is White, most judges are White, most CEOs are White, etc. so White people control most of what counts. Any industry that is most non-White isn't that way because Whites are excludes. It's either because they have no interest or low interest.

Such a shame the mods decided the other day that calling a certain other Southern conservative racist as, well, a racist, somehow violated plc. Otherwise I might have a comment to add here.

What a bizarre little snowflake. Imagine thinking in 2023 that whites are being discriminated against.

[longtimelurker]

Kennedy always stroke me as one of dumbest senators. Seems to confirm that impression. The state of LA isn't sending their best.

But, according to the article linked by the OP, the legislators still in Louisiana may be even worse:

"Meanwhile in related news, the Republican-controlled Louisiana House Thursday passed a bill to make some criminal records public for juveniles as young as 13, regardless of whether they are guilty of the crime — and only if they live in Orleans, East Baton Rouge and Caddo Parishes. Those parishes are, of course, home to three of the state's largest Black populations."

[All Along The Watchtower]

Friend, if you think I care in the slightest what you say about me you are mistaken.

Trump tried to repeal the MBDA in 2018 and was stopped by Democratic members of congress.

There has not been any even arguable federal governmental discrimination against non-whites in 60 years. State governmental, 40-50. There has, by contrast, been active discrimination against whites for the past several decades. Do you defend that?

I'm not concerned about being a minority: I am concerned about being racially discriminated against. Do you think racial discrimination is justified?

We aren't friends. It doesn't matter that Trump tried to repeal it that organization was still created by a Republican and Trump trying to repeal it just shows he is a racist. What White supremacists call discrimination is not being able to behave like the Klan did. Nobody is racially discriminating against you.  White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population.

It actually does matter: it shows that even though Nixon established the MBDA Democrats are the primary supporters of it today.

White people (including me, thus) are discriminated against in the US today. I posted several examples of that in practice above. You are arguing in response that that discrimination is good (because "White people have disproportionate control of everything compared to their share of the population") but you are notably not disputing that that discrimination does occur. My original statement (that "Democrats are racist against white people") is thus correct because we both agree that Democrats do engage in discrimination against white people on the basis of their being white.

I would separately strongly disagree with your argument that that discrimination is good. When you say that racial discrimination against whites is justified because whites makes up a disproportionate share of certain certain professions or activities, you are both ignoring the many professions in which white people are not proportionally represented (for instance, should we have racial discrimination in favor of whites in basketball?) and asserting that meritorious outcomes are bad if they result in racially disproportionate results. You are wrong on both counts: the first is hypocritical, and the second ignores that meritorious outcomes help society at large and deliver the fairest results, even if the results are not proportional. With regards to the second one, you also ignore that racial discrimination on the part of government violates the Lockean social contract that is the basis of legitimate government as well as the United States Constitution, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race.

What is this whiny nonsense?