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« on: February 26, 2007, 03:32:47 AM »

An organization I volunteer with is seeking nominations for an annual award for political courage.

It's in the manner of the Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, but without prize money given to the individual, and thus less prestige.  But we're still an upstanding organization with a good name, so whoever we award this to is usually pleased to get it.  There will be state press coverage of this event, and on occasion the national media has picked this up as well, but even the most local and obscure of awardees is ok, although we're in Connecticut, so travel might get expensive from somewhere far away.

I post this here because all members of this organization are asked to submit nominations each year.  I've got a few, but what do you all think?  This can be an elected official, a journalist, an activist, or anyone who displayed political courage, perhaps to the detriment of his or her career (or life, but I hope there aren't many instances of that in this country), in the past year or so.

Thanks for your help!
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 10:27:53 AM »

An organization I volunteer with is seeking nominations for an annual award for political courage.

It's in the manner of the Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, but without prize money given to the individual, and thus less prestige.  But we're still an upstanding organization with a good name, so whoever we award this to is usually pleased to get it.  There will be state press coverage of this event, and on occasion the national media has picked this up as well, but even the most local and obscure of awardees is ok, although we're in Connecticut, so travel might get expensive from somewhere far away.

I post this here because all members of this organization are asked to submit nominations each year.  I've got a few, but what do you all think?  This can be an elected official, a journalist, an activist, or anyone who displayed political courage, perhaps to the detriment of his or her career (or life, but I hope there aren't many instances of that in this country), in the past year or so.

Thanks for your help!

Well, first, let me welcome you to the forum.

Second, let me nominate Sen. Lieberman, who wouldn't back down in his opposition to terrorism despite the shrieks of the loony left.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 10:32:15 AM »

An organization I volunteer with is seeking nominations for an annual award for political courage.

It's in the manner of the Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, but without prize money given to the individual, and thus less prestige.  But we're still an upstanding organization with a good name, so whoever we award this to is usually pleased to get it.  There will be state press coverage of this event, and on occasion the national media has picked this up as well, but even the most local and obscure of awardees is ok, although we're in Connecticut, so travel might get expensive from somewhere far away.

I post this here because all members of this organization are asked to submit nominations each year.  I've got a few, but what do you all think?  This can be an elected official, a journalist, an activist, or anyone who displayed political courage, perhaps to the detriment of his or her career (or life, but I hope there aren't many instances of that in this country), in the past year or so.

Thanks for your help!

Well, first, let me welcome you to the forum.

Second, let me nominate Sen. Lieberman, who wouldn't back down in his opposition to terrorism despite the shrieks of the loony left.

Right. Because the war in Iraq has reduced terrorism sooo much. You never hear about people blowing themselves up anymore. And of course, opposition to the war there is just the fringe 2/3 of the country.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 10:55:02 AM »

An organization I volunteer with is seeking nominations for an annual award for political courage.

It's in the manner of the Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, but without prize money given to the individual, and thus less prestige.  But we're still an upstanding organization with a good name, so whoever we award this to is usually pleased to get it.  There will be state press coverage of this event, and on occasion the national media has picked this up as well, but even the most local and obscure of awardees is ok, although we're in Connecticut, so travel might get expensive from somewhere far away.

I post this here because all members of this organization are asked to submit nominations each year.  I've got a few, but what do you all think?  This can be an elected official, a journalist, an activist, or anyone who displayed political courage, perhaps to the detriment of his or her career (or life, but I hope there aren't many instances of that in this country), in the past year or so.

Thanks for your help!

Well, first, let me welcome you to the forum.

Second, let me nominate Sen. Lieberman, who wouldn't back down in his opposition to terrorism despite the shrieks of the loony left.

Right. Because the war in Iraq has reduced terrorism sooo much. You never hear about people blowing themselves up anymore. And of course, opposition to the war there is just the fringe 2/3 of the country.

First, please note the number of years since 9/11.

Second, I'd rather fight them in Iraq (my brother in law serves there, as do a number of my friends and neighbors).

Third, most Americans (alas) are like ADHD children in that if a conflict is not resolved in a very short time, they want to give up.  It took years for the Brits to defeat the communist insurgency in Malasia. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 03:32:31 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2007, 04:33:26 AM by memphis »

An organization I volunteer with is seeking nominations for an annual award for political courage.

It's in the manner of the Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, but without prize money given to the individual, and thus less prestige.  But we're still an upstanding organization with a good name, so whoever we award this to is usually pleased to get it.  There will be state press coverage of this event, and on occasion the national media has picked this up as well, but even the most local and obscure of awardees is ok, although we're in Connecticut, so travel might get expensive from somewhere far away.

I post this here because all members of this organization are asked to submit nominations each year.  I've got a few, but what do you all think?  This can be an elected official, a journalist, an activist, or anyone who displayed political courage, perhaps to the detriment of his or her career (or life, but I hope there aren't many instances of that in this country), in the past year or so.

Thanks for your help!

Well, first, let me welcome you to the forum.

Second, let me nominate Sen. Lieberman, who wouldn't back down in his opposition to terrorism despite the shrieks of the loony left.

Right. Because the war in Iraq has reduced terrorism sooo much. You never hear about people blowing themselves up anymore. And of course, opposition to the war there is just the fringe 2/3 of the country.

First, please note the number of years since 9/11.

Second, I'd rather fight them in Iraq (my brother in law serves there, as do a number of my friends and neighbors).

Third, most Americans (alas) are like ADHD children in that if a conflict is not resolved in a very short time, they want to give up.  It took years for the Brits to defeat the communist insurgency in Malasia. 
So, you're saying that Bush has deliberately created a long-term war to distract terrorists away from American attacks?
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 06:21:50 AM »

No.

First, I believe when the dust settles, the weapons of mass destruction will be found to have been transported to Syria in the opening days of the conflict.

Second, it is clear that Saddam was funding and sheltering terrorists (Abu Abbas, the monster responsible for murdering wheel chair bound American Leon Klinghoffer, found refuge in Iraq).

Third, the conflict in Iraq has suceeded in decimating Al-Qadea.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2007, 07:28:48 AM »

I'd say Lieberman, possibly. One could argue it did take an act of courage to lose a party's nomination but run an independant campaign and side with them in the Senate.

Second, I'd rather fight them in Iraq (my brother in law serves there, as do a number of my friends and neighbors).

I hate it when people make this argument. American soldiers in Iraq don't distract terrorists from attacking elsewhere. Look at the Madrid bombings, the London Underground bombings, and that plan a few months back where they were going to blow up planes over the Atlantic. If anything, the U.S.'s presence in Iraq has made us less safe, as it allows terrorists a much easier recruitment.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2007, 08:00:07 AM »

I'd say Lieberman, possibly. One could argue it did take an act of courage to lose a party's nomination but run an independant campaign and side with them in the Senate.

Second, I'd rather fight them in Iraq (my brother in law serves there, as do a number of my friends and neighbors).

I hate it when people make this argument. American soldiers in Iraq don't distract terrorists from attacking elsewhere. Look at the Madrid bombings, the London Underground bombings, and that plan a few months back where they were going to blow up planes over the Atlantic. If anything, the U.S.'s presence in Iraq has made us less safe, as it allows terrorists a much easier recruitment.

B.S.

The London bombings are because the Brits have been historically too tolerant of immigrant nut cases.

The terrorists bombing in Spain would probably have happened no matter what as the islamofacists are committed to their version of 'la reconquista.'

Oh, and I wonder if you also hate it when people tell you one plus one equals two.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2007, 02:30:14 PM »

Thanks for the welcome, Carl Hayden, and for the suggestion of Lieberman, as seconded by Bacon King.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2007, 11:22:59 PM »

I would have thought people would have a lot of ideas on this.  I'm still interested in more suggestions. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2007, 11:25:14 PM »

Senator Gordon Smith also should get an honorable mention.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2007, 12:52:13 AM »

An organization I volunteer with is seeking nominations for an annual award for political courage.

It's in the manner of the Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, but without prize money given to the individual, and thus less prestige.  But we're still an upstanding organization with a good name, so whoever we award this to is usually pleased to get it.  There will be state press coverage of this event, and on occasion the national media has picked this up as well, but even the most local and obscure of awardees is ok, although we're in Connecticut, so travel might get expensive from somewhere far away.

I post this here because all members of this organization are asked to submit nominations each year.  I've got a few, but what do you all think?  This can be an elected official, a journalist, an activist, or anyone who displayed political courage, perhaps to the detriment of his or her career (or life, but I hope there aren't many instances of that in this country), in the past year or so.

Thanks for your help!

Well, first, let me welcome you to the forum.

Second, let me nominate Sen. Lieberman, who wouldn't back down in his opposition to terrorism despite the shrieks of the loony left.

Right. Because the war in Iraq has reduced terrorism sooo much. You never hear about people blowing themselves up anymore. And of course, opposition to the war there is just the fringe 2/3 of the country.

First, please note the number of years since 9/11.

Second, I'd rather fight them in Iraq (my brother in law serves there, as do a number of my friends and neighbors).


So do some of my friends and fellow parishioners.  And to a man (or woman), they would rather be fighting the terrorists in Afghanistan.  See, they have this nutty idea that THAT'S where Al Qaeda and the Taliban are.  Not in Bagdhad. 

I realize The Decider "doesn't think about Osama bin Laden" anymore.  But a lot of the troops under his command still do. 

And, irony of ironies, what few terrorists with links to Al Qaeda ARE now in Iraq went there...because of The Decider's "war of choice".  The Decider fulfilled one campaign promise:  To be a uniter, not a divider.  Unfortunately for us and for our brave men and women in uniform, he united the Theocratic Islamic terrorists of Al Qaeda with the secularist Ba'athists of Iraq.  At least, he managed to unite them in their hatred of us.

But I have confidence in The Decider.  Confidence that he will find still more underhanded and utterly incompetent ways in which to weaken America, strengthen Al Qaeda and the Taliban and continue to enrich his cronies in the military-industrial complex.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2007, 01:00:51 AM »

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall"
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2007, 01:30:27 AM »

Russ Feingold. Unlike the overwhelming majority of Senators, he actually has principles.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2007, 02:02:59 AM »

Feingold
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2007, 02:25:06 AM »

Feingold has courage, and so does Chuck Hagel for speaking out against Iraq. Give courage to Lieberman... I may not have agreed with what he did, but he has been a ballsy little bastard.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2007, 08:11:17 PM »

and so does Chuck Hagel for speaking out against Iraq.

If only the Senator Hagel who votes on legislation was anywhere as principled as the Senator Hagel who talks to the media.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2007, 08:19:42 PM »

In America? Not Many, Ralph Nader would be one....

Cue a vicious assault on me by BRTD.
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