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« on: February 02, 2023, 01:53:04 PM »



So much for that "moderate Republican" huh?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2023, 02:12:14 PM »

Annoying fake moderate. You can't be pro-democracy and still in any form support Donald Trump. Not after January 6.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2023, 02:18:19 PM »
« Edited: February 02, 2023, 03:25:37 PM by BenjiG98 »

Apparently a "miscommunication."


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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2023, 02:19:58 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 02:51:32 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2023, 08:26:29 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2023, 09:22:23 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.


ROMNEY??? FAR-RIGHT???

Boi, you've indisputably lost EVERY single marble in that brain of yours. Romney is about as far-right as Joe Manchin is far-left.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2023, 12:09:55 AM »

Apparently a "miscommunication."




He still is not committing to NOT supporting Trump though, and "fully expects" to support the Republican nominee, who he simply doesn't "believe" will be Trump. Literally nothing in this statement indicates that he will not support Trump if he DOES win the nomination regardless of what he "believes," nor does it suggest that the original story was a "miscommunication." It seems to pretty much confirm it, in fact. This is just classic politician-speak loaded with weasel words to try to mislead you into thinking his position could be two things simultaneously depending on how you want to read it. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. Don't let him get away with it.

That said, didn't he literally vote for Ronald Reagan's corpse last time? Guess he was disillusioned by the corpse's underperformance in the election if he's even leaving the door open to support Trump at all now...
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2023, 12:15:03 AM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



What good did Romney running so much to the right end up doing. He literally ended up disowning his own healthcare plan, which could have helped him in a general election .

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2023, 02:46:42 AM »

What kind of answer is this? "I don't believe Trump will be the nominee [...]", well, dude, read the polls. That's an answer you can give being asked about Stapleton, who has zero chance to get the nomination. But Trump is the frontrunner.

Fake moderate is fake. News at 11.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2023, 07:31:25 AM »

He's down by 6 that means he loses FL
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2023, 05:03:31 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.


ROMNEY??? FAR-RIGHT???

Boi, you've indisputably lost EVERY single marble in that brain of yours. Romney is about as far-right as Joe Manchin is far-left.
2012-era Mitt Romney is probably the most right-wing major party nominee is recent memory. Calling him far-right may be an exaggeration, but only barely. Keep in mind we're talking about the least principled man who's ever lived, a guy who has held every single position conceivable at some point in his career. Governor Romney and Presidential Candidate Romney and Senator Romney are three entirely different people with very little ideological overlap
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2023, 06:31:52 PM »

Annoying fake moderate. You can't be pro-democracy and still in any form support Donald Trump. Not after January 6.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2023, 01:04:28 AM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



Romney basically had to use his 2008 campaign to completely rebrand himself as a hardcore immigration hawk in order to set himself up to actually win the nomination in 2012 (and even then he barely managed it and was too bloodied from the primary to win in November).
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2023, 03:59:05 AM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.


ROMNEY??? FAR-RIGHT???

Boi, you've indisputably lost EVERY single marble in that brain of yours. Romney is about as far-right as Joe Manchin is far-left.
Nobody is suggesting that Romney is actually a far-right politician, but he veered HARD to the right for both his 2008 and his 2012 campaigns.

What the actual Mitt Romney believes nobody knows, but I suspect that Senator Romney is the truest Romney we've seen as he steered left to win his governorship in MA and steered right to contest the GOP presidential primaries. If anything I suspect that Senator Romney is actually somewhat to the right of the true Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2023, 04:08:41 AM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



Romney basically had to use his 2008 campaign to completely rebrand himself as a hardcore immigration hawk in order to set himself up to actually win the nomination in 2012 (and even then he barely managed it and was too bloodied from the primary to win in November).

Immigration is an issue Romney  has stayed consistent on , as he is still pretty hawkish on that issue
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2023, 11:42:54 AM »

Ah, this ridiculous dodge again.  Election season is truly back.

This one is particularly irritating.  One of the really refreshing things about Trump in 2015 was that he was the only candidate who would've had the balls to just be straightforward and answer the question with "I will support the Republican nominee, unless it's Trump, who I absolutely will not support because he sucks"

is that so hard to say?  Apparently, since candidates will twist themselves in ridiculous knots to avoid saying it, and the media will let them get away with it as part of this whole little dance.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2023, 04:34:18 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



What good did Romney running so much to the right end up doing. He literally ended up disowning his own healthcare plan, which could have helped him in a general election .



He did better than McCain and flipped NC back, denying Obama the re-election halo Bush, Clinton, and Reagan got.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2023, 04:50:33 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



What good did Romney running so much to the right end up doing. He literally ended up disowning his own healthcare plan, which could have helped him in a general election .



He did better than McCain and flipped NC back, denying Obama the re-election halo Bush, Clinton, and Reagan got.

Without Lehman brothers happening 6 weeks before the election, Obama does not win IN NC and likely FL either .

OH and VA are very close in this scenario as well
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