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« on: January 04, 2023, 06:24:38 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2023, 08:48:42 PM »

The South.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2023, 10:28:55 PM »

As the rest of the Plains states, it's in the Midwest. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2023, 02:33:59 PM »

Any. It goes wherever the oil companies tell it to.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2023, 10:59:14 PM »

Of these, at least, western. Every state west of MN/IA/MO/AR/LA is western (though some fall into other categories too - such as NE, for instance, also being part of the Great Plains).

Parts of it (especially Southeast/South OK) ARE culturally (and politically) distinctly southern, though.

As the rest of the Plains states, it's in the Midwest.  

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2023, 11:36:25 AM »

I would say most of it is Southern by land area, but the 2 population centers are more Midwestern.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2023, 10:00:21 AM »

Out of these, west
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2023, 02:15:19 AM »

Tulsa is definitely a Midwestern city from my visits there. It has some Western vibes, but it didn't strike me as Southern at all. OKC is more challenging. It is very much on the border between the Breadbasket Plains Midwest and the wide open West dominated by ranching and petroleum.

I think they are still mostly a Plains state by population.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2023, 02:52:07 AM »
« Edited: January 13, 2023, 03:06:49 AM by Adam Griffin »

...and this is me being generous with the allocation of both "South" and "West". If almost 80% of your population (77.3% to be precise) falls into the "Plains/Midwest" category as a state, then the categorization is clear:




(Not that it particularly matters for absolute classification of regional boundaries, but it is also worth noting that Biden did 22 & 27 points better - and Edmondson 19 & 13 points better, respectively - in one of these three regions when compared to the other two: you can guess which one!)
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2023, 02:56:12 PM »

I've always considered Oklahoma a part of the South.  Areas of the country where the Southern Baptist Convention is the largest religious denomination roughly corresponds to my map of the South.  Plus, most of the people I've met from Oklahoma have some degree of Southern accents.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2023, 04:31:30 PM »

I've always considered Oklahoma a part of the South.  Areas of the country where the Southern Baptist Convention is the largest religious denomination roughly corresponds to my map of the South.  Plus, most of the people I've met from Oklahoma have some degree of Southern accents.

Exactly.  Oklahoma is much more Evangelical than the more Mainline Protestant and Catholic Plains states to the North.

Just as Kansas, Nebraska, and the Dakotas form the Western edge of the Midwest, Texas and Oklahoma comprise the western end of the South.  They aren’t the quintessential South, but they are mostly Southern nonetheless.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2023, 04:51:58 PM »

Much like Southern California became a part of the Midwest last summer, Oklahoma has moved from the Midwest to the South.
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2023, 05:23:21 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2023, 10:53:33 AM »

Personally I would draw a line from Tulsa County to Comanche County, and once you hit Comanche go straight south instead of continuing southwest. East of that line, you are south (I would go further west than Little Dixie). Everything west of that line is Plains/Western.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2023, 11:21:39 AM »

It's Southern.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2023, 12:59:39 PM »

I’m absolutely floored so many people think Oklahoma is southern, I absolutely do not consider it that at all. It’s plains/Texan/western if anything, but definitely not southern.

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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2023, 04:30:58 PM »

Former part of the Confederacy = South.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2023, 12:03:21 AM »

As the rest of the Plains states, it's in the Midwest. 

No, it’s not.  Lol.  No one in the state or the actual Midwest would agree, you’re just gatekeeping the South.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2023, 12:24:37 AM »

As the rest of the Plains states, it's in the Midwest. 

No, it’s not.  Lol.  No one in the state or the actual Midwest would agree, you’re just gatekeeping the South.

are you not similarly gatekeeping the Midwest? LOL

Seems pretty straightforward to me that the Plains states belong in the most boring region of the country. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2023, 05:24:54 PM »

As the rest of the Plains states, it's in the Midwest.  

No, it’s not.  Lol.  No one in the state or the actual Midwest would agree, you’re just gatekeeping the South.

are you not similarly gatekeeping the Midwest? LOL

Seems pretty straightforward to me that the Plains states belong in the most boring region of the country.  

If people in Oklahoma largely thought of themselves as Midwestern and I refused them, that would be gatekeeping. Smiley  However, I feel like most Oklahomans would say the state is, on the whole, in teh South.  Even though I consider Missouri to be very different from the rest of the Midwest, most Missourians I have met consider themselves to be from the Midwest, with the exception fo the very southern part of the state ... but we are looking at this at a state level.  lTrying to keep "The Plains" together is no more logical on a macro level than trying to keep "The Rust Belt" together, IMO, and there is nowhere in the state of New York or Eastern PA that is the Midwest.

I'll agree that Oklahoma is in a bit of a No Man's Land along with states like West Virginia and Missouri, but I think some of its cultural traits (e.g., having way more Baptists in favor of more traditional Protestant groups like the rest of the Plains or having had a vibrant Southern Democratic tradition instead of rock-ribbed Republicanism) make it seem more Southern than Midwestern.  If we were doing boundaries that crossed through states, I would say part of the state is "culturally Midwestern," part is "culturally Southern" and part is "culturally Western."
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2023, 09:45:14 PM »

Too many people conflate "fat, poor, religious types with strange accents" with "Southron": it's the same reason why so many think Missouri, Kentucky and/or West Virginia are Southron.

It's frankly both classist and offensive. Poor white conservative evangelicals aren't a uniquely Southron phenomenon, and to just assume borderline/nominal communities are automatically part of the cultural dynamic is ridiculous. Just because many people there descended from Southrons 2-4 generations ago doesn't mean jack: otherwise, we need to reassign a good segment of central/Southern CA as Southron as well!
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