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« on: February 19, 2005, 04:25:58 PM »

very positive.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2005, 04:27:33 PM »

Negative
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2005, 04:28:03 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2005, 04:30:04 PM by nickshepDEM »

Great man, Great Democrat.  He gave one of my favorite speeches in history at the 1984 Democratic National Convention.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/cuomo1984dnc.htm
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2005, 04:40:41 PM »

Positive.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2005, 04:49:39 PM »

He had a narrow view of America, but what politician doesn't?

He was a fine speaker, but he failed toward the end of his governorship. So much that Pataki beat him. Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2005, 04:49:59 PM »

Negative.  He was a terrible governor of New York State.

Cuomo is a silver-tongued demagogue.  His liberal tax-and-spend policies brought the state to a low point economically.

As a governor, he was simply awful, which is probably why New Yorkers elected him 3 times.  By the fourth time, it was so bad that even New York had had enough of him, and voted him out.

His successor has unfortunately become a pale imitation of him, after starting out being a pretty good governor.  The state of politics in NY State is very sad.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2005, 06:44:13 PM »

Negative.  He was a terrible governor of New York State.

Cuomo is a silver-tongued demagogue.  His liberal tax-and-spend policies brought the state to a low point economically.

As a governor, he was simply awful, which is probably why New Yorkers elected him 3 times.  By the fourth time, it was so bad that even New York had had enough of him, and voted him out.

His successor has unfortunately become a pale imitation of him, after starting out being a pretty good governor.  The state of politics in NY State is very sad.

Spitzer will be a good governor.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2005, 07:47:02 PM »

Negative.  He was a terrible governor of New York State.

Cuomo is a silver-tongued demagogue.  His liberal tax-and-spend policies brought the state to a low point economically.

As a governor, he was simply awful, which is probably why New Yorkers elected him 3 times.  By the fourth time, it was so bad that even New York had had enough of him, and voted him out.

His successor has unfortunately become a pale imitation of him, after starting out being a pretty good governor.  The state of politics in NY State is very sad.

Spitzer will be a good governor.

I think he'll be terrible, but he's what New Yorkers deserve.  He's a self-serving egomaniac and a demagogue, which will play very well in New York.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2005, 07:49:08 PM »

Positive.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2005, 07:59:49 PM »


I think he'll be terrible, but he's what New Yorkers deserve.  He's a self-serving egomaniac and a demagogue, which will play very well in New York.

Careful there, you guys elected Rowland.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2005, 08:04:00 PM »


I think he'll be terrible, but he's what New Yorkers deserve.  He's a self-serving egomaniac and a demagogue, which will play very well in New York.

Careful there, you guys elected Rowland.

Well, you're right about that.  I never said Connecticut was that much better.  I actually thought Rowland was a pretty good governor, corruption notwithstanding.  He's far from the only corrupt official, and in this state it's a bipartisan affair.

So far, I generally like Governor Rell.  She proposes to tackle some long-neglected transportation issues, which is very important.

Connecticut is a better state than New York politically because it doesn't have a large city that has a political stranglehold over the state, the way New York does.  I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2005, 08:11:43 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2005, 08:16:47 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

New York City is a political albatross around the state's neck.  Politicians from high-crime New York city neighborhoods voted against toughening criminal sentencing for years.  It was finally pushed through in the early years of the Pataki administration.

These people, in concert with Cuomo, also blocked fingerprinting of welfare recipients, thereby allowing people to collect many different welfare checks under fictitious names.  They said it was "undignified" for those looking to leach off the public to have to submit to fingerprinting.  I had to be fingerprinted to get my job, but I guess that's OK, because I'm only the one paying for all these people.

Cuomo was the perfect example of a brain-dead liberal mindset that existed in complete absence of any form of logic.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2005, 08:17:19 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2005, 08:19:14 PM by jfern »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2005, 08:21:06 PM »


I think he'll be terrible, but he's what New Yorkers deserve.  He's a self-serving egomaniac and a demagogue, which will play very well in New York.

Careful there, you guys elected Rowland.

Well, you're right about that.  I never said Connecticut was that much better.  I actually thought Rowland was a pretty good governor, corruption notwithstanding.  He's far from the only corrupt official, and in this state it's a bipartisan affair.

So far, I generally like Governor Rell.  She proposes to tackle some long-neglected transportation issues, which is very important.

Connecticut is a better state than New York politically because it doesn't have a large city that has a political stranglehold over the state, the way New York does.  I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

As I just said, upstate NY is lean Democrat.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2005, 10:41:08 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2005, 10:46:27 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

I guess it'd be a Democratic swing state.
Schumer still landslided upstate NY, though.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2005, 10:47:13 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

If you take away the NYC votes, Kerry only wins NY State by about 40,000 votes.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2005, 10:48:22 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

I guess it'd be a Democratic swing state.
Schumer still landslided upstate NY, though.

The NYGOP did not seriously campaign against Schumer.  Mills was a sacrificial lamb, we didn't even try.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2005, 10:54:23 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2005, 10:57:42 PM by jfern »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

If you take away the NYC votes, Kerry only wins NY State by about 40,000 votes.

I get over 100,000 for NY state - NYC
and over  50,000 for upstate NY, counting Westchester.

Bush won upstate NY - Westchester, by about 10,000-20,000.
It doesn't matter whether you count Rockland, it was 50/50.

In addition, Kerry may have won NY north of  the 42nd longitude line.
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2005, 11:23:24 PM »

Cuomo?  The mob hasn't killed him yet?

I'm from Long Island.  The part of the state that Cuomo treated as hi s administrations toilet.  He shat on us every chance he got.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2005, 11:24:43 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

If you take away the NYC votes, Kerry only wins NY State by about 40,000 votes.

I get over 100,000 for NY state - NYC
and over  50,000 for upstate NY, counting Westchester.

Bush won upstate NY - Westchester, by about 10,000-20,000.
It doesn't matter whether you count Rockland, it was 50/50.

In addition, Kerry may have won NY north of  the 42nd longitude line.

Did you just remove New York County, or also Kings, Queens, and Richmond?
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2005, 11:28:30 PM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

If you take away the NYC votes, Kerry only wins NY State by about 40,000 votes.

I get over 100,000 for NY state - NYC
and over  50,000 for upstate NY, counting Westchester.

Bush won upstate NY - Westchester, by about 10,000-20,000.
It doesn't matter whether you count Rockland, it was 50/50.

In addition, Kerry may have won NY north of  the 42nd longitude line.

Did you just remove New York County, or also Kings, Queens, and Richmond?
I removed New York, Kings, Queens, Richmond, and the BRONX.

When I talked about upstate NY, I removed Suffolk and Nassau.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2005, 10:12:16 AM »

I have no love for the New York City voters who have inflicted dreadful liberal policies on the whole state, from high taxes to leniency toward criminals.

Tell me about it. I believe if you take the NYC votes away from the rest of NY's votes the state becomes pretty close.

Kerry, Gore, Hillary, and Schumer all won NY outside of NYC. In fact, if Westchester county is considered upstate NY, then all 4 won upstate NY as well.

I didn't say that they would lose I just said it would be closer.

If you take away the NYC votes, Kerry only wins NY State by about 40,000 votes.

I get over 100,000 for NY state - NYC
and over  50,000 for upstate NY, counting Westchester.

Bush won upstate NY - Westchester, by about 10,000-20,000.
It doesn't matter whether you count Rockland, it was 50/50.

In addition, Kerry may have won NY north of  the 42nd longitude line.

Did you just remove New York County, or also Kings, Queens, and Richmond?
I removed New York, Kings, Queens, Richmond, and the BRONX.

When I talked about upstate NY, I removed Suffolk and Nassau.

Suffolk and Nassau aren't in NYC, therefore thats a valuable part to what I was talking about.
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