Why is Kari Lake doing well but Doug Mastriano flopping
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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2022, 09:28:56 AM »

Mastriano actually is an extremist and Lake is more like on the edge.
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2022, 09:35:32 AM »

Mass psychology is one hell of a drug.
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2022, 09:46:41 AM »

Mass psychology is one hell of a drug.

Wait, is Mastriano mass psychology or Lake mass psychology?
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2022, 10:07:08 AM »

Lake and Mastriano are the two Trumpiest gubernatorial candidates running in swing states?

But Lake is in good position while Mastriano is not, what's wrong?

Mastriano is a Kobach-ite statist religious nationalist who is actually way outside the GOP mainstream. (Note that everyone is willing to tolerate non-statist religious nationalists, who are basically an integral part of the coalition, but Mastriano is actually something quite different from what a typical hard-right Republican would be somewhere like rural Idaho or whatever). He won the nomination by a weird streak of luck, where there was a large number of undecideds because of the wide-open race and Trump simply endorsed the person running in first to try to notch a 'win' rather than examining what Mastriano was. Note that he was polling around 15-20% in the primary before the Trump endorsement, and note that -- perhaps counterintuitively -- this percentage is one that would be smaller outside the Northeast.

Lake is a basically normal anti-immigration populist, down to being a celebrity (which anti-immigration populists like). Her campaign has been very clearly inspired by and modeled after Trump 2016, which was successful nationally. They're actually quite different.

(Also, a marginal effect here but still needs to be said, Hobbs has been running a very weak campaign and Shapiro a very strong one. But the important differences here are between the Republican candidates).

What do you mean by this?  What makes him a statist as compared to other GOP candidates?
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2022, 10:06:31 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2022, 10:44:06 PM by MT Treasurer »

Mass psychology is one hell of a drug.

Wait, is Mastriano mass psychology or Lake mass psychology?

Both.

A couple of things to keep in mind here (this is very simplified; if you want, we can discuss this in greater detail via PM):

1. Mass psychology is usually characterized by a leader figure who is confident, assertive, and forceful (the image of a flock springs to mind here). There are exceptions to this, mostly during momentous national events/crises in which a combination of fear and excitement is the main driver of public opinion/sentiment/behavior, but that doesn’t apply here. — Lake is obviously closer to that type of leader than Mastriano.
2. Prestige is the second driving force behind a leader's authority/aura, and it does not spring from a logical or even rational/conscious evaluation of said person's past or actual views, but from the fact that, for example, said individual occupies a certain position/profession or carries a certain title (e.g. doctor). Such markers of status and authority are incredibly powerful and can have a near-paralyzing effect on the individual's mind. — Lake was a popular news anchor, Mastriano is a nobody.
3. A leader's prestige usually increases with the number of people who accord him or her respectability, no matter how justified their assessment is (and it very often isn’t). It’s all about the numbers, not about the person — think of prestige 'spreading' from one person to the other and also ask yourself which candidate a voter would instinctively trust more, the one with prestige (i.e. the one who the rest of the herd also trusts) or the one without (i.e. the one only a tiny minority identifies with). Also ask yourself how it would affect the voter's own prestige if he or she supported a candidate with little to no prestige. — More voters are familiar with and like Lake than are familiar with and like Mastriano, and the average voter isn’t unaware of the (rough) numbers.
4. There is no more powerful means of shaping mass opinion than mass media, particularly news broadcasts. Do bear in mind that even if you happen to be alone while watching the news, you are aware that hundreds of thousands if not millions of other viewers are watching the same show along with you. — Lake (obviously) has experience in mass media and playing an audience, Mastriano has none of it.

This is an often underappreciated but nonetheless very powerful perspective. The other big reason is that Lake has benefited from actual outside spending whereas Mastriano hasn’t, but there’s a reason why Lake is harder to paint as an extremist than Mastriano, and it’s only partly because she’s less sincere about her views than Mastriano and because she’s clearly more skilled at branding herself than Mastriano. Lake being a woman also works to her advantage in this case, as (a) women are generally harder to paint as extremists than men and (b) confidence arguably has an even more intimidating effect on the audience when it is a woman who manages to project it.
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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2022, 10:05:40 AM »

Because Lake probably went behind the scenes with Ducey, other GOP donors and assured them her thing is largely an act and isn't insane.
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