100% Solar community in Florida survives Ian with minimal damage

[Vice President Christian Man]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/solar-babcock-ranch-florida-hurricane-ian-climate

Could this be a solution for future cities to avoid/limit catastrophes caused by storms?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Nice article, thanks for posting it.

[Schiff for Senate]

Could this be a solution for future cities to avoid/limit catastrophes caused by storms?

Yes, it absolutely could. And things like the power crisis in TX last year could probably be avoided with this kind of thing, as well. I'm very glad that you posted this - now, you and all of us can see just one more benefit of going solar.

[Vice President Christian Man]

Nice article, thanks for posting it.

You're welcome

[Vice President Christian Man]

Could this be a solution for future cities to avoid/limit catastrophes caused by storms?

Yes, it absolutely could. And things like the power crisis in TX last year could probably be avoided with this kind of thing, as well. I'm very glad that you posted this - now, you and all of us can see just one more benefit of going solar.

Yes I was thinking about that definitely. Solar also benefits the poor/working class as they wouldn't have to pay as much in electric bills.

[Hermit For Peace]

It's the wave of the future.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Yes, where are the blue avs? Are they just not here because it doesn't conform to their narrative that coal is the most efficient and reliable resource?

[Sestak]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/solar-babcock-ranch-florida-hurricane-ian-climate

Could this be a solution for future cities to avoid/limit catastrophes caused by storms?

Not really no, this is only a solution to limit catastrophes specifically caused by power outages. This is good nevertheless and should be commended, but we can't pretend that these houses wouldn't have been washed away by twelve feet of storm surge and waters rushing over 100 mph if they were on Sanibel Island

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that solar panels can protect structures from physical damage. And power outages are...generally a major problem when it comes to dealing with the aftermath of a natural disaster?

[courts]

Yes, where are the blue avs? Are they just not here because it doesn't conform to their narrative that coal is the most efficient and reliable resource?

who said that?

[riceowl]

What a positive thread!

[Vice President Christian Man]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/solar-babcock-ranch-florida-hurricane-ian-climate

Could this be a solution for future cities to avoid/limit catastrophes caused by storms?

Not really no, this is only a solution to limit catastrophes specifically caused by power outages. This is good nevertheless and should be commended, but we can't pretend that these houses wouldn't have been washed away by twelve feet of storm surge and waters rushing over 100 mph if they were on Sanibel Island

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that solar panels can protect structures from physical damage. And power outages are...generally a major problem when it comes to dealing with the aftermath of a natural disaster?

Yes, when did I say otherwise? Literally the next paragraph that you cut out I mentioned that

Of course this is one of many solutions

Solar panels by themselves aren't going to prevent physical damage but they buried the power lines underground. I think our technological and electrical infrastructure is long overdue for an update and moving them underground is the answer. Some of these communities are flattened but this community is clearly doing something right if it's managing to hold up as well as it is. The solar panels just take a burden off the taxpayer when it comes to electric bills.

You made a point when you mentioned it being an inland location but even then it was spared compared to nearby areas.

[GP270watch]

Solar Panel arrays can survive Category 5 storms. There was a big study done on the aftermath of major hurricanes that passed through Caribbean Islands and what mounting techniques survived and which didn't.

 Places like Puerto Rico especially need more solar installations, which would relieve the island of its major grid problems. After the recent hurricane that hit Puerto Rico the whole island basically went dark. This Babcock Ranch example is good guide for other places and it's the second storm the community has survived intact with Irma being the other.

[Aurelius]

>thread has 7 posts, 3 by the same person

wHeRe aRE tHe bLUe aVs?

[Brittain33]

Yes, where are the blue avs?

They’re still working out the “but what about BLM?” angle to this story

[ilikeverin]

One issue with this story is that the major damage in Fort Myers was due to storm surge, not wind. Babcock Ranch is a fascinating development, and the fact it didn't face power issues was neat... but it's also nowhere near the ocean, so by its nature it would never face a storm surge threat. Of course, this is probably an intentional part of the build, which suggests a way that Florida must but will not adapt (moving away from the coast), but it's not quite as cut and dry as this article suggests.

[Del Tachi]

Florida has always been a big solar state.  It ranks #3 in the nation for total solar production, only behind California and Texas.

The difference between solar in Florida and solar in liberal states like New Jersey, Maryland, etc. is that policy in the liberal states is written to prefer rooftop solar installers who get power purchase agreements (PPAs) to sell discounted electricity to homeowners.  PPAs are more expensive in the long-run and reduce overall generation and distribution capacity by steering revenues away from utilities.

The Florida model is large-scale solar arrays operated by regulated utilities and paid for by ratepayers.  This gives utilities a reason to invest in solar (which is something Democrats don't like, they'd rather steer investment toward the solar firms who contribute to their campaigns) while greening the total energy generation mix. 

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Florida has always been a big solar state.  It ranks #3 in the nation for total solar production, only behind California and Texas.

The difference between solar in Florida and solar in liberal states like New Jersey, Maryland, etc. is that policy in the liberal states is written to prefer rooftop solar installers who get power purchase agreements (PPAs) to sell discounted electricity to homeowners.  PPAs are more expensive in the long-run and reduce overall generation and distribution capacity by steering revenues away from utilities.

The Florida model is large-scale solar arrays operated by regulated utilities and paid for by ratepayers.  This gives utilities a reason to invest in solar (which is something Democrats don't like, they'd rather steer investment toward the solar firms who contribute to their campaigns) while greening the total energy generation mix. 

Imagine having a positive opinion of utility companies.

[dead0man]

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that solar panels can protect structures from physical damage.

the thread title implies it

Imagine having a positive opinion of utility companies.

everyone praising this story is doing that.  From the article

The ranch broke ground in 2015 with the construction of the solar array — which was built and is run by Florida Power and Light — and its first residents moved into the town in 2018. Since then, the array has doubled in size and thousands of people have made Babcock their home.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Florida has always been a big solar state.  It ranks #3 in the nation for total solar production, only behind California and Texas.

The difference between solar in Florida and solar in liberal states like New Jersey, Maryland, etc. is that policy in the liberal states is written to prefer rooftop solar installers who get power purchase agreements (PPAs) to sell discounted electricity to homeowners.  PPAs are more expensive in the long-run and reduce overall generation and distribution capacity by steering revenues away from utilities.

The Florida model is large-scale solar arrays operated by regulated utilities and paid for by ratepayers.  This gives utilities a reason to invest in solar (which is something Democrats don't like, they'd rather steer investment toward the solar firms who contribute to their campaigns) while greening the total energy generation mix. 

Imagine having a positive opinion of utility companies.

>criticizes utility companies for providing power when that's their job

[Aurelius]

Florida has always been a big solar state.  It ranks #3 in the nation for total solar production, only behind California and Texas.

The difference between solar in Florida and solar in liberal states like New Jersey, Maryland, etc. is that policy in the liberal states is written to prefer rooftop solar installers who get power purchase agreements (PPAs) to sell discounted electricity to homeowners.  PPAs are more expensive in the long-run and reduce overall generation and distribution capacity by steering revenues away from utilities.

The Florida model is large-scale solar arrays operated by regulated utilities and paid for by ratepayers.  This gives utilities a reason to invest in solar (which is something Democrats don't like, they'd rather steer investment toward the solar firms who contribute to their campaigns) while greening the total energy generation mix. 

Imagine having a positive opinion of utility companies.

We are jaded by PG&E. Most utility companies are not PG&E.

[Schiff for Senate]

>thread has 7 posts, 3 by the same person

wHeRe aRE tHe bLUe aVs?

It's not just this thread. Frequently, we find threads incriminating the GOP, where blue avatars are conspicuously absent.

That said, Courts is right: enough blue avatars have moved past the talking point of 'coal is the best', and agree that some (too little, too late - far too slow and not-nearly-far-reaching) action is necessary, some transition to renewable (such as DT). Other than that, plenty of blue avatars have also endorsed nuclear energy (such as GregTheGreat).