The difference between Westchester and LI explained?

[King of Kensington]

Westchester has more liberal elite professional suburbs, and Long Island has more middle and upper class car dealership owner suburbs

Long Island is also more white ethnic than Westchester I think. And different Jews in Scarsdale (reform) vs say great neck (Persian) and five towns (frum)

White ethnic boomers who grew up in Long Island and went to elite colleges and became affluent professionals (or married them) started their own families in Westchester or Connecticut instead. In their place white ethnic boomers who had grown up in the outer boros moved to LI.

Meanwhile wasp boomers who grew up in Rockefeller Republican households in Westchester mostly became Democrats

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[If my soul was made of stone]

Westchester is a lot less white and well-to-do than its image suggests. Mount Vernon is basically an extension of the adjacent Black parts of the Bronx, Port Chester Hispanic, Yonkers almost Jersey City levels of multiracial, etc.

[King of Kensington]

Yes, LI is whiter - and more suburban - than Westchester.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

This is very similar to why one of Houston's big suburban counties (Fort Bend) has stampeded towards the Democrats while the other one (Montgomery) remains one of the most Republican counties in the state and has barely budged.

[kwabbit]

Westchester is a lot less white and well-to-do than its image suggests. Mount Vernon is basically an extension of the adjacent Black parts of the Bronx, Port Chester Hispanic, Yonkers almost Jersey City levels of multiracial, etc.

Westchester is pretty similar to Union County, NJ. Same combination of very non-White suburbs/exurbs/small cities with WASPY and Jewish suburbs.

I was able to create a million person area in New Jersey out of Union, non Newark/Black Essex and East Morris County that's 50% White VAP, 25% Hispanic, 18% Black, and 8% Asian. It matched Westchester's demographics and political margins almost exactly.

[King of Kensington]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

[Alcibiades]

I’ve noticed on precinct maps that there are actually some sizeable Republican pockets in southern Westchester. Any one know what’s going on there?

[Roll Roons]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

[King of Kensington]

I’ve noticed on precinct maps that there are actually some sizeable Republican pockets in southern Westchester. Any one know what’s going on there?

Italians.

[Alcibiades]

I’ve noticed on precinct maps that there are actually some sizeable Republican pockets in southern Westchester. Any one know what’s going on there?

Italians.

Haha, that was one of my guesses, considering this is the NYC metro after all. I suppose parts of Westchester do look similar to Long Island then?

[King of Kensington]

Italian is the most common ancestry in pretty much every suburban NYC county. 

[King of Kensington]

Haha, that was one of my guesses, considering this is the NYC metro after all. I suppose parts of Westchester do look similar to Long Island then?

Perhaps Eastchester or Yorktown.

But no Larchmont or Rye-type places in LI.

[Del Tachi]

Haha, that was one of my guesses, considering this is the NYC metro after all. I suppose parts of Westchester do look similar to Long Island then?

Perhaps Eastchester or Yorktown.

But no Larchmont or Rye-type places in LI.

You mean there are no similarly wealthy places on LI?  Great Neck, Kings Point, Sands Point, etc. arguably are

[cg41386]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

[kwabbit]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

Yeah western Union County sans Plainfield matches the description. I'm not from the area, so I can't peg exactly which towns are extremely wealthy versus fairly wealthy, but I have some friends from Berkeley Heights and they live in $300k+ MHI income neighborhoods.

[King of Kensington]

You mean there are no similarly wealthy places on LI?  Great Neck, Kings Point, Sands Point, etc. arguably are

Great Neck and Scarsdale used to be somewhat comparable.  But Great Neck is now very different: a lot more traditional and Persian Jewish.

The Five Towns too used to be filled with a more secular Jewish population, but now it's mostly Orthodox.

[cg41386]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

Yeah western Union County sans Plainfield matches the description. I'm not from the area, so I can't peg exactly which towns are extremely wealthy versus fairly wealthy, but I have some friends from Berkeley Heights and they live in $300k+ MHI income neighborhoods.

Berkeley Heights isn't nearly as flashy house-wise, but it has a pretty high median income.

[Smash255]

You mean there are no similarly wealthy places on LI?  Great Neck, Kings Point, Sands Point, etc. arguably are

Great Neck and Scarsdale used to be somewhat comparable.  But Great Neck is now very different: a lot more traditional and Persian Jewish.

The Five Towns too used to be filled with a more secular Jewish population, but now it's mostly Orthodox.

Great Neck, still tends to have a North/South split.  The further north you go into Great Neck, it is much more Persian and traditional, and has trended heavily Republican.  Further south into Great Neck is still fairly Democratic, a bit more secular Jewish (though more Asian as well)

A closer comparison to Scarsdale would probably be Roslyn or Jericho (not quite as Democratic and Jericho has become more and more Asian, but both areas tend have large Secular Jewish populations and are quite Democratic)

[kwabbit]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

Yeah western Union County sans Plainfield matches the description. I'm not from the area, so I can't peg exactly which towns are extremely wealthy versus fairly wealthy, but I have some friends from Berkeley Heights and they live in $300k+ MHI income neighborhoods.

Berkeley Heights isn't nearly as flashy house-wise, but it has a pretty high median income.

They were 5 bed 4 bath basically McMansions but not quite. Modest lawns. What’s Westfield or Summit like?

[Tintrlvr]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

Realistically, the equivalent is over the border in Essex County: It's Millburn. Union County certainly has substantial similarities to Westchester, but it's missing the status of containing the most prestigious and wealthiest town in the state.

[cg41386]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

Yeah western Union County sans Plainfield matches the description. I'm not from the area, so I can't peg exactly which towns are extremely wealthy versus fairly wealthy, but I have some friends from Berkeley Heights and they live in $300k+ MHI income neighborhoods.

Berkeley Heights isn't nearly as flashy house-wise, but it has a pretty high median income.

They were 5 bed 4 bath basically McMansions but not quite. Modest lawns. What’s Westfield or Summit like?

Westfield has a bunch of older homes, some are big. Summit, which is technically considered a city, has more million dollar and higher-priced homes I would say.

[cg41386]

What's the Union County equivalent of Larchmont, Rye, Scarsdale etc.?

Probably Summit, Westfield or Cranford.

Definitely Summit or Westfield. Cranford is nowhere near as wealthy as those two.

Berkeley Heights, New Providence and Fanwood might qualify at least in terms of income levels.

Realistically, the equivalent is over the border in Essex County: It's Millburn. Union County certainly has substantial similarities to Westchester, but it's missing the status of containing the most prestigious and wealthiest town in the state.

Yeah, Millburn/Short Hills is a very good equivalent.