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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2022, 12:39:13 PM »

Problem with this take is they’ve been among the most accurate in the Midwest since 2016. They have serious problems and I do not trust them outside of the Midwest, but whatever they are doing has been very accurate so it’s nonsensical to totally discount their results.

>Thinks Pennsylvania is the Midwest

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Politically it is the Midwest, it is way more similar to Michigan and Ohio than it is to NY or NJ / the Atlantic region lol.

Also I grew up in Michigan, our neighbors were from Pittsburgh, and they referred to it as the Midwest. But I’m sure you’d know better.

No most of Pittsburgh does not consider itself midwest, and no Pennsylvania is not the midwest.
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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2022, 02:00:58 PM »

Problem with this take is they’ve been among the most accurate in the Midwest since 2016. They have serious problems and I do not trust them outside of the Midwest, but whatever they are doing has been very accurate so it’s nonsensical to totally discount their results.

>Thinks Pennsylvania is the Midwest

Opinion immediately discarded.
Politically it is the Midwest, it is way more similar to Michigan and Ohio than it is to NY or NJ / the Atlantic region lol.

Also I grew up in Michigan, our neighbors were from Pittsburgh, and they referred to it as the Midwest. But I’m sure you’d know better.

No most of Pittsburgh does not consider itself midwest, and no Pennsylvania is not the midwest.

Pennsylvania is best understood politically as a hybrid of the Northeast and the Appalachian South, not the Northeast and the Midwest
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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2022, 03:11:33 PM »


This point is made all the time and I do not understand it. It is only "politically" in the midwest if "Midwest" is synonymous with "swing state," which is just not the case. After all, Illinois, Indiana, and the Dakotas are all in the midwest as well. Also, I'm not convinced that you're right that PA is more similar to MI than NJ or NY or whatever. Even if you want to argue that Pittsburgh is midwestern (which I would disagree with tbh), Allegheny County shifted left from 2012 to 2016! The largest shifts in PA were in NEPA, which is very much not midwestern; the rest of the state experienced shifts more comparable to upstate NY than Michigan or anything honestly, which, again, not midwestern.
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