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« on: January 11, 2008, 07:19:40 PM »

The fact that Obama and Edwards ganged up on her during the New Hampshire debate did not do them any favors, it seems:
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Women’s Support for Clinton Rises in Wake of Perceived Sexism

By JODI KANTOR
Published: January 10, 2008


If the race wasn’t about gender already, it certainly is now.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has been running for president for nearly a year. But in the past week, women in Iowa mostly rejected her, a few days before women in New Hampshire embraced her. All over the country, viewers scrutinized coverage for signs of chauvinism in the race, and many said they found dismaying examples.

Even Democratic women with no intention of voting for Mrs. Clinton found themselves drawn into the debate and shaken by what briefly seemed like a humiliating end to the most promising female candidacy in American history.

The process seems to have changed a few minds, at least for now.

“I was really pained by the thought that her campaign really was over,” said Amy Rees, a stay-at-home mother in San Francisco who will vote in the California Democratic primary on Feb. 5. “I kept thinking that the truth is, a woman — even a woman of her unquestioned intelligence and preparedness — can’t get even a single primary win. It really stung.”

Ms. Rees had favored Senator Barack Obama of Illinois; now she is thinking of voting for Mrs. Clinton.

Until a few weeks ago, Mrs. Clinton, of New York, hardly seemed like someone in need of defending — from sexism or anything else. She was the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination. She was a Clinton. And as a former first lady, she was a complicated test case for female achievement.

By losing the first presidential contest, Mrs. Clinton may have succeeded in getting more women to see her as she presents herself: not a dominant figure of power, but a woman trying to break what she has called “the highest and hardest glass ceiling" in America.

“I do want Hillary Rodham Clinton to take the White House, but until she lost Iowa, I didn’t realize how much, or how much it had to do with her being a woman,” said Allison Smith-Estelle, 37, director of a program against domestic violence in Red Lodge, Mont.

What bothered them as much as the Iowa results, said several dozen women in states with coming primaries, was the gleeful reaction to her defeat and what seemed like unfair jabs in the final moments before the New Hampshire voting.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 07:29:54 PM »

The fact that Obama and Edwards ganged up on her during the New Hampshire debate did not do them any favors, it seems:

Obviously.  The two of them have been extremely negative towards her, much more than normal for candidates running behind a frontrunner, as is the case with Obama/Edwards/Clinton.

Nobody likes negative campaigns and it looks like this is finally starting to hurt them.  Edwards is out.  Obama is sinking.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »

It's a NYTimes article, and they seem to have been rather pro-Clinton, so I can take the article with a grain of salt. I'm certain that many women like Clinton and many more are now at least considering giving support to her, but frankly I think those that have been swayed to her side recently by things such as the emotional display in Iowa are just as likely to swing away for something else she or another candidate might do. Women are people, and people are fickle. Such is the nature of political campaigns.

Personally, I don't see a need to have a woman President. Mind you I have nothing against the notion, but I just don't see a need for it. The same goes for having a black President. Sure, having those kinds of things might make nice little bonuses, but I don't see any logical reason to have them weigh in on deciding who should be the leader of our nation. Compare to things such as intelligence, competence, integrity, vision, drive, etc. I find such things as what private parts a person was born with or the color of one's skin to be entirely irrelevant.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 08:04:13 PM »

Thankfully many women are not stupid enough to consider voting for Clinton because she is a woman. Thank you smart college girls!!
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 08:42:40 PM »

Right, sexism, just like how Clinton's many attacks on Obama were obviously borne from racism. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 08:51:20 PM »

I'm starting to think Hillary would be tougher to beat in the general then Obama, actually. Anytime she's slammed she seems to become more popular with women. Mind you her campaign's recent actions towards Obama might cause his support amongst Blacks to rise, so who knows.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 09:08:59 PM »

I'm starting to think Hillary would be tougher to beat in the general then Obama, actually. Anytime she's slammed she seems to become more popular with women. Mind you her campaign's recent actions towards Obama might cause his support amongst Blacks to rise, so who knows.

Her surrogates will probably release fliers saying that Obama is "ashamed of his race" or something along those lines.  Bank on it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 09:15:04 PM »

Another of Hillary's advisor's is spouting that if you want to vote for Obama then your for a black hip hop president or something of that sort. If she's not careful she could blow Nevada big.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 09:31:42 PM »

This could be a good scheme, though it comes with great risks. We could conjoin an attack on our candidate to descrimination. Then again, this could backfire and worse, rekindle racism and sexism in our country to the point of openness.
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