What set of positions is far more common than people tend to assume?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'm going to say an evangelical who supports marijuana legalization.

From my experience most people in liberal bubbles think such a person would be a weird oddball or only "my type" of evangelical and that most unironically think it's the "devil's lettuce" or whatever. In reality though: 1-a non-neglible number of evangelicals use it and 2-probably at least 40% don't really give a sh!t and don't regard it as much different than alcohol or tobacco just like most "normal" people do today. The idea that their opposition is just as strong as on abortion or LGBT issues is kind of absurd. And this proves itself regularly in legalization referendums.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I'm going to say an evangelical who supports marijuana legalization.

From my experience most people in liberal bubbles think such a person would be a weird oddball or only "my type" of evangelical and that most unironically think it's the "devil's lettuce" or whatever. In reality though: 1-a non-neglible number of evangelicals use it and 2-probably at least 40% don't really give a sh!t and don't regard it as much different than alcohol or tobacco just like most "normal" people do today. The idea that their opposition is just as strong as on abortion or LGBT issues is kind of absurd. And this proves itself regularly in legalization referendums.

Didn't marijuana decriminalization pass by a landslide in Oklahoma?

[Aurelius]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

This illogical set of positions describes a lot of people actually.

[TransfemmeGoreVidal]

Liberals and leftists who are skeptical of abortion on social justice and anti-eugenics grounds but who don't speak up about it because it would invite ostracization because of how polarized the issue has become. I've known a few who have admitted it privately.

[RI]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

This illogical set of positions describes a lot of people actually.

It is actually possible to do all three simultaneously. Difficult, but possible.

[有爭議嘅領土 of The Figgis Agency]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

This illogical set of positions describes a lot of people actually.

It is actually possible to do all three simultaneously. Difficult, but possible.

Any notable real-life examples?

[Boobs]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

This illogical set of positions describes a lot of people actually.

It is actually possible to do all three simultaneously. Difficult, but possible.

Any notable real-life examples?

A country previously running a surplus

[Hope For A New Era]

This is more the opposite, but it's more like positions that are much less common than they "should" be - it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment. Almost everyone who cares about the two issues supports one and opposes the other (myself included, and I fully accept and acknowledge that it doesn't make sense). I guess that's proof of the irrationality of humanity, or something.

The only person I know who strongly opposes both is my father. I don't know anyone who supports both.

[_.]

it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment.

It's because being pro-abortion and anti-death penalty or vice versa isn't an ideologically inconsistent position, maybe only if you're looking at it in the most simplistic way.

[jamestroll]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

I truly hate those people and they never give a coherent response when confronted about it.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Anti gay marriage/anti abortion pro welfare state

[RI]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

This illogical set of positions describes a lot of people actually.

It is actually possible to do all three simultaneously. Difficult, but possible.

Any notable real-life examples?

Unlikely to be many examples as you'd either have to be intentionally targeting multiplier and substitution effects or you'd have to have comically high initial tax rates to the point of extreme elasticities to get the outcome.

[Skill and Chance]

it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment.

It's because being pro-abortion and anti-death penalty or vice versa isn't an ideologically inconsistent position, maybe only if you're looking at it in the most simplistic way.

This is true because of innocence/guilt arguments, but what is really difficult to explain logically is pro-abortion restrictions, anti-COVID restrictions.  And that view was shockingly common!

*Anti-abortion restrictions, pro-COVID restrictions is somewhat more reasonable because of the argument that a mask/vaccine/social distancing is less burdensome than being pregnant.

It seems like only libertarians and Catholics (note the Vatican had a vaccine mandate) were consistent on this!

[100% pro-life no matter what]

it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment.

It's because being pro-abortion and anti-death penalty or vice versa isn't an ideologically inconsistent position, maybe only if you're looking at it in the most simplistic way.

This is true because of innocence/guilt arguments, but what is really difficult to explain logically is pro-abortion restrictions, anti-COVID restrictions.  And that view was shockingly common!

*Anti-abortion restrictions, pro-COVID restrictions is somewhat more reasonable because of the argument that a mask/vaccine/social distancing is less burdensome than being pregnant.

It seems like only libertarians and Catholics (note the Vatican had a vaccine mandate) were consistent on this!

That one isn't particularly hard if you take the view that everyone can choose for themselves how much risk they are wiling to take (so the social responsibility falls on oneself).  So, a person has agency to decide how much risk they're wanting to take on (and in an implicit contract with other people who are taking similar risk), but they don't have the agency to decide to intentionally and directly take someone else's life.

[Skill and Chance]

it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment.

It's because being pro-abortion and anti-death penalty or vice versa isn't an ideologically inconsistent position, maybe only if you're looking at it in the most simplistic way.

This is true because of innocence/guilt arguments, but what is really difficult to explain logically is pro-abortion restrictions, anti-COVID restrictions.  And that view was shockingly common!

*Anti-abortion restrictions, pro-COVID restrictions is somewhat more reasonable because of the argument that a mask/vaccine/social distancing is less burdensome than being pregnant.

It seems like only libertarians and Catholics (note the Vatican had a vaccine mandate) were consistent on this!

That one isn't particularly hard if you take the view that everyone can choose for themselves how much risk they are wiling to take (so the social responsibility falls on oneself).  So, a person has agency to decide how much risk they're wanting to take on (and in an implicit contract with other people who are taking similar risk), but they don't have the agency to decide to intentionally and directly take someone else's life.

From the perspective of a voluntary social gathering where everyone involved is retired or could WFH if they wanted to, that is reasonable.  For similar reasons, I quickly stopped supporting vaccine mandates when it became apparent that it primarily protected the individual rather than stopping transmission in any decisive way.  However: 

1. Economic necessity to go to an in-person job (the government rightly mitigated this with the stimulus/unemployment that people could claim for health reasons, but it didn't entirely go away)

2. Additional strain on first responders (thankfully this didn't reach the breaking point, but for something with a 10% fatality rate, it probably would have)

3. There is growing evidence that COVID exposure likely caused excess miscarriages.  We also knew going into this that Spanish Flu caused mass miscarriages. 

I think those all pretty clearly justify some government intervention from a pro-life standpoint.  Certainly not now, but at least up until the point in the spring of 2021 when vaccines/treatments that could reduce it to roughly the level of 2019 flu risk became available to all. 

[Orser67]

Supporting all 3 of cutting taxes, raising spending, and balancing the budget.

This illogical set of positions describes a lot of people actually.

It is actually possible to do all three simultaneously. Difficult, but possible.

Any notable real-life examples?

A notable attempt occurred in the 1960s by JFK and LBJ, as they both sought a Keynesian-inspired tax cut while looking to increase spending in other areas. Without getting too into the weeds, it cut taxes (the top rate dropped from ~90% to ~70%), and revenue did grow. It might have worked if not for Vietnam and/or if the Great Society had increased domestic spending less.

[Wormless Gourd]

Anti-weed, anti-immigration Democrats.

Vitriolically racist but pro-choice, pro-SSM voters in general.

Supporting gun regulations/restrictions on rifles but not for pistols.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Anti-weed, anti-immigration Democrats.

Vitriolically racist but pro-choice, pro-SSM voters in general.

Supporting gun regulations/restrictions on rifles but not for pistols.

The libertarian platform

[有爭議嘅領土 of The Figgis Agency]

Anti-weed, anti-immigration Democrats.

Asian Boomers and adult immigrants (from most countries east of the Khyber pass) are stereotyped as the former. Many of them can also be considered the latter depending on their occupation and how strongly they feel about the immigration process.

[Ferguson97]

Increased border security and amnesty for undocumented immigrants.

In the abstract people will generally take tough-on-illegals stances, but when push comes to shove, people are very uncomfortable with the idea of deporting people who have been here for a long time, unless they've committed some violent crime.

[David Hume]

This is more the opposite, but it's more like positions that are much less common than they "should" be - it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment. Almost everyone who cares about the two issues supports one and opposes the other (myself included, and I fully accept and acknowledge that it doesn't make sense). I guess that's proof of the irrationality of humanity, or something.

The only person I know who strongly opposes both is my father. I don't know anyone who supports both.

Actually, many first gen Asians are pro-choice and support death penalty. The vast majority in Asian countries support death penalty. And they are pro choice in general since not Christian enough.

[Skill and Chance]

This is more the opposite, but it's more like positions that are much less common than they "should" be - it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment. Almost everyone who cares about the two issues supports one and opposes the other (myself included, and I fully accept and acknowledge that it doesn't make sense). I guess that's proof of the irrationality of humanity, or something.

The only person I know who strongly opposes both is my father. I don't know anyone who supports both.

Actually, many first gen Asians are pro-choice and support death penalty. The vast majority in Asian countries support death penalty. And they are pro choice in general since not Christian enough.

All the unambiguously free East Asian countries have both capital punishment and legal abortion.  Singapore is an intermediate case on freedom, but they are also notable for applying the death penalty even to some non-violent crimes.

[David Hume]

This is more the opposite, but it's more like positions that are much less common than they "should" be - it's weird that very few people are ideologically consistent on abortion and capital punishment. Almost everyone who cares about the two issues supports one and opposes the other (myself included, and I fully accept and acknowledge that it doesn't make sense). I guess that's proof of the irrationality of humanity, or something.

The only person I know who strongly opposes both is my father. I don't know anyone who supports both.

Actually, many first gen Asians are pro-choice and support death penalty. The vast majority in Asian countries support death penalty. And they are pro choice in general since not Christian enough.

All the unambiguously free East Asian countries have both capital punishment and legal abortion.  Singapore is an intermediate case on freedom, but they are also notable for applying the death penalty even to some non-violent crimes.

Same with non-free East Asian countries, like China, North Korea, Vietnam.