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No, Absolutely not; had it been enacted, the US could no longer claim the moral highground in the cold war (if it could really claim that at all) and be guilty of great crimes against humanity
 
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Does it look like I care?
 
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Tetro Kornbluth
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« on: December 25, 2006, 05:57:52 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

I'm just curious here. And no Operation Northwoods is not a conspiracy theory; though it looks like one, it was, as the article states an actual plan drawn up and approved by the entire chiefs of staff at the time. Clearly showing how much the American Goverment and Military establishment cares for it's people.

Sadly, the partizans can't get too excited here, and it was drawn up under the Kennedy Admin; though of course Eisenhower's men were mostly responible.

So anyone going to claim that this would have been justified, had it been carried out?

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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2006, 06:03:18 PM »

Purhaps there HAS been an "Opperation Northwoods" type event occuring on September 11th 2001?HuhHuhHuhHuh?   
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2006, 08:38:08 PM »

Purhaps there HAS been an "Opperation Northwoods" type event occuring on September 11th 2001?HuhHuhHuhHuh?   

Whats the motivation though?  If the goal was to oust Sadam they would've set it up with him as the original culprit instead of Osama.  If it was a set-up then Afghanistan was the target and why would anyone have cared about them before 9/11?

Although I oppose the Northwoods thing I think more should have been done to oust Castro at the time of his rise to power.  That is where we should have been fighting instead of Vietnam.  Actually, we never should have granted Cuba autonomy in the first place.  We shoulda just annexed it after the Spanish-American War and turned it into another state.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2006, 02:01:18 AM »

Unsure, I could have seen the positives of doing something like that to enable us to take out a tyrant like Castro.
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2006, 02:12:52 PM »

No further opinions on this?
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2006, 02:35:47 PM »

Cuba isn't important enough to justify the false flag actions that would have been undertaken for this operation. And this obviously isn't 100% leak proof; if word and proof were leaked that the government was involved in terrorist attacks upon domestic soil, then we have revolution.
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2006, 02:59:20 PM »

Cuba isn't important enough to justify the false flag actions that would have been undertaken for this operation.

At this point in time Cuba was very important to US interests.  (not to justify this thing)
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2006, 08:07:27 PM »

Cuba isn't important enough to justify the false flag actions that would have been undertaken for this operation. And this obviously isn't 100% leak proof; if word and proof were leaked that the government was involved in terrorist attacks upon domestic soil, then we have revolution.

Are you sure about that? After all it is freely available information now and yet very few people know about it. I wonder how much people who have read this thread never heard of Operation Northwoods before doing so.

Also really strange to say that in the 1960s Cuba was unimportant to the United States given all that actually did happen.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2006, 09:19:35 PM »

I would vote option 2 if the rest of the gunk were taken out.  A simple 'no' is good enough. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2006, 09:22:12 PM »

I would vote option 2 if the rest of the gunk were taken out.  A simple 'no' is good enough. 

Sorry, you're not allowed to make polls on the Atlas Forum that isn't either pointless spam or one that has horribly slanted and biased choices. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2006, 09:28:00 PM »

I would vote option 2 if the rest of the gunk were taken out.  A simple 'no' is good enough. 

Sorry, you're not allowed to make polls on the Atlas Forum that isn't either pointless spam or one that has horribly slanted and biased choices. Tongue

At least None of my polls can be. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2006, 09:45:16 PM »

It is very naive to think that the american State does not carry such activities out on a regular basis.. not to mention domestic assassinations.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2006, 11:06:51 PM »

It is very naive to think that the american State does not carry such activities out on a regular basis.. not to mention domestic assassinations.

So you are saying we should just lie down and accept that our own government can kill any number of innocent citizens because we have no real reason to justify starting wars?  I don't know about you but I for one am against state sponsored terrorism.
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2007, 02:05:44 PM »

Bump.

What I was looking for in this thread was someone to defend this - that's why I made the poll choices so scewed.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2007, 02:58:24 PM »

Cuba isn't important enough to justify the false flag actions that would have been undertaken for this operation. And this obviously isn't 100% leak proof; if word and proof were leaked that the government was involved in terrorist attacks upon domestic soil, then we have revolution.

Are you sure about that? After all it is freely available information now and yet very few people know about it. I wonder how much people who have read this thread never heard of Operation Northwoods before doing so.

Also really strange to say that in the 1960s Cuba was unimportant to the United States given all that actually did happen.

No, I'm just saying that Cuba wasn't important enough to justify all the actions that would have been undertaken by this operation. Of course Cuba was of great interest in view of the United States, being a potential threat to American business interests in the area and an ally of the USSR.

The reason why people don't care about this is because, well, nobody has heard of it, and it was 40 years ago. Had these attacks actually been undertaken, and word was somehow leaked that U.S. government officials were involved, then this country would have a very large problem. The marginal cost simply does not exceed marginal benefit, especially in retrospect.
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