Will BBB have the same Fallout as the ACA in 2009?

[2016]

Republicans won big in the House in 2010!

And every single Swing State or Red State Democratic Senator except for Jon Tester of Montana either lost in the subsequent Election or retired.

[Mr.Phips]

This was going to happen regardless of BBB.  Red and swing state Democrats will be a thing of the past after the next couple of elections.  We are heading towards having a one and a half party system where Republicans dominate pretty much all of American politics but the Presidency, where Democrats can compete since those elections are more personality based rather than issue based.

[2016]

This was going to happen regardless of BBB.  Red and swing state Democrats will be a thing of the past after the next couple of elections.  We are heading towards having a one and a half party system where Republicans dominate pretty much all of American politics but the Presidency, where Democrats can compete since those elections are more personality based rather than issue based.

Republicans in 2009 forced the Democrats to vote on Final Passage of the ACA before it reached President Obamas Desk in an Election Year (2010).

Minority Leader McCarthy also made a smart play from a Republican Perspective with his 8 Hour 30 Minute Floor Speech by forcing Democrats to vote for Final Passage of BBB when People were awake and could see what was happening and not in the middle of the Night when everyone was asleep.

[UncleSam]

If it gets passed then yes, there will be some backlash. Not because of anything actually in the Bill (that wasn’t the case with the ACA either), but rather solely because the Democrats dared to try to govern and improve people’s lives.

[Pollster]

Minority Leader McCarthy also made a smart play from a Republican Perspective with his 8 Hour 30 Minute Floor Speech by forcing Democrats to vote for Final Passage of BBB when People were awake and could see what was happening and not in the middle of the Night when everyone was asleep.

Do remember that time zones are a thing, and that McCarthy's performance art was perfectly timed to carry him through primetime in his district.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

I hope that it ends up being quite popular in 8 years yes

[BoiseBoy]

I really don't think so. Infrastructure spending is different than a healthcare proposal with an individual mandate and other very unpopular aspects that got taken to the Supreme Court. BBB will be viewed much more favorably by the public for the most part.

Republicans were going to have a good 2022 regardless of BBB passing or not. The McCarthy speech was needless, bizarre, and was pretty well panned. I know he was essentially auditioning for Majority Speaker but damn.

[2016]

Minority Leader McCarthy also made a smart play from a Republican Perspective with his 8 Hour 30 Minute Floor Speech by forcing Democrats to vote for Final Passage of BBB when People were awake and could see what was happening and not in the middle of the Night when everyone was asleep.

Do remember that time zones are a thing, and that McCarthy's performance art was perfectly timed to carry him through primetime in his district.

You are indeed making a good Point here!

[pikachu]

Maybe I’m out of touch, but BBB/infrastructure doesn’t seem to have the same salience as the healthcare debate did in 2009/2010. If Dems get smashed in 2022, we’re probably talking about inflation and esoteric culture war issues as the cause, not the spending plans.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The issue isn't BBB it's Manchin and Sinema won't make a carve out on the Filibuster for VR, banning gerrymandering Districts that hurts the D, D's don't have to worry about the gerrymandering in the S as they are Favs there, it's the gerrymandering in FL and TX that's why Demings abd Crist are down double digits

[Lognog]

I've seen right-wingers list what's in the bill and then caption something along the lines "isn't this awful socialism?" When it's simply items that are popular with most independents and a good chunk or majority of republicans. Honestly, it seems hard for them to attack the merits of the bill. My big fear is no the bill being attacked, that will not work its just too popular. My fear is the bill is never brought up and instead the midterms are defund the police and CRT.

[junior chįmp]

No

[2016]

I've seen right-wingers list what's in the bill and then caption something along the lines "isn't this awful socialism?" When it's simply items that are popular with most independents and a good chunk or majority of republicans. Honestly, it seems hard for them to attack the merits of the bill. My big fear is no the bill being attacked, that will not work its just too popular. My fear is the bill is never brought up and instead the midterms are defund the police and CRT.

People are usually deciding on the Economy and Republicans leading Democrats by 15 Points on that Question on the latest NBC/WSJ Poll!

[Utah Neolib]

Probably a few aspects of it that republicans would consider “socialism!”. But, I don’t think republicans are stupid enough to attack building new roads and bridges in infrastructure.

[Frodo]

In the sense that if Republicans (shamelessly) create the narrative that Build Back Better isn't really so much about helping the needy in society, but about cutting taxes (aka, increasing the SALT cap) for Democrats' wealthy donors in California and the Northeast as payback for their continued support for the Democratic Party, it will make the midterms even worse for us than they should be.  

I hope the Senate removes that SALT provision.  It is not worth defending at the expense of everything else in that bill.  It is a distraction we do not need.  

[Ferguson97]

No, because the ACA was a very specific bill and most people understood on a basic level what was in the bill. The BBB is a very large bill and it's got too many things in it for the GOP to focus on. Most of the backlash in 2022 will be on cultural issues.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No, because Ds didn't just lose on ACS we had 11 percent unemployment, Biden Approvals are low due to fact we still have lockdowns due to Covid

D's intend on winning TX Gov, OH and NC SEN, APPROVSKS DONT MATTER TIL AUG 22, THERE WERE MANY INC AHEAD A YR BEFORE TYE ELECTION ABD LOST

GEORGE ALLEN AND TED STRICKLAND

The biggest dropoff were among Indies that swing back and forth that's why Ds won 80 K votes it's still a 304 map with wave potential

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The trouble for RS the infrastructure and BBB will improve DS chances nor decrease their chances in NOV 22

[beesley]

Not in itself, but the GOP can use it as evidence of Democrats commitment to socialism, elitism etc. But they would've done that anyway. Democrats should own the bill more.

[Senator Incitatus]

No. Some provisions will be rightly unpopular and inflation/debt issues will be separated out from the popularity of the bill itself. But this bill doesn’t have the 60-year campaign of the AMA to contend with. Its fundamental motivation is not as controversial.