This is the best showing for D gub. candidates in the first year of a D presidency since 1977
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Crumpets
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« on: November 03, 2021, 01:59:35 AM »

2021 (as of now): Virginia R+2, New Jersey EVEN
2009: Virginia R+17, New Jersey R+4
1993: Virginia R+17, New Jersey R+1
1977: Virginia R+12, New Jersey D+14

So ha! Sad
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2021, 02:00:42 AM »

stop trying to sugarcoat things for Ds lol
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2021, 02:03:38 AM »

lmfao
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2021, 02:04:24 AM »

Damn it looks like VA will be really close, McAuliffe really deserves to be punished.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2021, 10:45:45 AM »

THG levels of hackery.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2021, 10:56:42 AM »

LOL, this is like saying "at least HRC won th NPV in 2016",
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2021, 10:58:48 AM »

I mean given how bad 1994/2010 were , I don’t think they are great barometers to use for democrats lol
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2021, 11:00:55 AM »

Stfu and touch grass
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2021, 11:03:02 AM »

I get the point more than most of the replies here, but consider that partisanship is higher than usual, and it's not hard to see how these results are extremely dire for Democrats.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2021, 11:07:38 AM »
« Edited: November 03, 2021, 12:47:16 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

This is actually a bit of a feat, especially with Murphy being the first Democrat since 1977 to be re-elected, but it's mostly copium still. At best it establishes that maybe 2022 won't be as bad as 2010, maybe polarization is benefitting Democrats...but not as much as they need these days. But a 2022 that isn't 2010 could still be a 2014 or worse.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2021, 11:24:48 AM »
« Edited: November 03, 2021, 11:28:23 AM by Crumpets »

Just to be clear, I didn't post this to say actually yesterday was great for Democrats or anything. More just in a "well that stat was unexpected when I looked it up" way that I thought a few people might appreciate.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2021, 11:27:16 AM »

Blue wave incoming
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2021, 12:38:54 PM »

It would be interesting to see how far they shifted each time but these elections seem to indicate a 2014 is on the horizon than 2010. Things can always get worse, though.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2021, 04:51:43 PM »

2021 (as of now): Virginia R+2, New Jersey EVEN
2009: Virginia R+17, New Jersey R+4
1993: Virginia R+17, New Jersey R+1
1977: Virginia R+12, New Jersey D+14

So ha! Sad
This is purely a result of realignment. Next time with a unpopular incumbent president, D may well held both states.
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2021, 06:14:21 PM »

Does this mean we can expect Richard Burr's successor to falter ala Bill Nelson, all while Wisconsin, Pennsylvania play the Indiana/Missouri/North Dakota trio and stay on board?

Or mayhaps a blue wave in the gubernatorials instead?

Y'know like how 2018 was a Republican midterm except for The House? [hence why Hubbell and Abrams couldn't win, which...even though Trump won those states by less than Biden for these two states]

Otherwise, who cares?
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2021, 06:23:53 PM »

Does this mean we can expect Richard Burr's successor to falter ala Bill Nelson, all while Wisconsin, Pennsylvania play the Indiana/Missouri/North Dakota trio and stay on board?

Or mayhaps a blue wave in the gubernatorials instead?

Y'know like how 2018 was a Republican midterm except for The House? [hence why Hubbell and Abrams couldn't win, which...even though Trump won those states by less than Biden for these two states]

Otherwise, who cares?

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2021, 06:38:14 PM »

Leave it to Atlas to over-extrapolate from elections that have just happened, onto future ones.  Lol.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2021, 06:55:12 PM »

Just to be clear, I didn't post this to say actually yesterday was great for Democrats or anything. More just in a "well that stat was unexpected when I looked it up" way that I thought a few people might appreciate.

Yeah that's how I interpreted it. Everybody stop piling on Crumpets.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2021, 08:16:42 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2021, 08:23:25 PM by Crumpets »

Lol this is exactly how Maddow is framing the election results in her show tonight. I don't get the impression she's being tongue-in-cheek about it either.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2021, 09:44:29 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2021, 09:56:57 PM »

In 1990, it looks like Democrats won a majority of the Trump state governorships while Republicans won a majority of the Biden state governorships. Clearly partisanship was different then.

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2021, 08:09:24 AM »

Mustn't it suck to receive a higher percentage than the last time you won and still lose? That must be bitter for T-Mac...
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2021, 08:20:11 AM »

Don't overdose on copium, friend. Things are much more partisan now than in those days.
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