Labor Dep: businesses with 100+ employees must ensure all workers get vaccinated or tested weekly

[Hammy]

So it turns out Biden's vaccine mandate functionally exists only on paper, as the people who it should apply to the most--those who deal directly with the general public--are exempt:

https://www.cbs58.com/news/the-vaccine-mandate-may-not-apply-to-your-uber-driver-or-big-mac-server

For example, most fast food restaurants are independently-owned franchises, not company-owned locations. So although some franchisees own multiple shops with lots of employees, many own a single restaurant with a headcount that exempts them from the rule.

Roughly 95% of McDonald's nearly 14,000 US locations are owned by a franchise operator, not the company itself, so there's a very good chance the employee serving you a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder isn't required to geta vaccine or take a Covid test in order to go to work.

More evidence we should never have a president over retirement age.

Biden's made quite a few questionable decisions regarding handling both COVID and his dealing with Republicans. He's clearly out of touch with what's going on.

No President under the age of 65 has ever made a mistake.

Biden is making mistakes where lives are on the line that defy common sense. Why on earth would you have a vaccine mandate and apply it in a manner that excludes the people it should most apply to? The only possible answers are that he somehow doesn't understand this, or wants the pandemic to go on forever (which given how the Dems are operating wouldn't surprise me either. )

You still haven't explained how the decision is as a result of him being 78.

These are not the decisions of someone who is mentally all there.

[GeorgiaModerate]

So it turns out Biden's vaccine mandate functionally exists only on paper, as the people who it should apply to the most--those who deal directly with the general public--are exempt:

https://www.cbs58.com/news/the-vaccine-mandate-may-not-apply-to-your-uber-driver-or-big-mac-server

For example, most fast food restaurants are independently-owned franchises, not company-owned locations. So although some franchisees own multiple shops with lots of employees, many own a single restaurant with a headcount that exempts them from the rule.

Roughly 95% of McDonald's nearly 14,000 US locations are owned by a franchise operator, not the company itself, so there's a very good chance the employee serving you a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder isn't required to geta vaccine or take a Covid test in order to go to work.

More evidence we should never have a president over retirement age.

Biden's made quite a few questionable decisions regarding handling both COVID and his dealing with Republicans. He's clearly out of touch with what's going on.

No President under the age of 65 has ever made a mistake.

Biden is making mistakes where lives are on the line that defy common sense. Why on earth would you have a vaccine mandate and apply it in a manner that excludes the people it should most apply to? The only possible answers are that he somehow doesn't understand this, or wants the pandemic to go on forever (which given how the Dems are operating wouldn't surprise me either. )

You still haven't explained how the decision is as a result of him being 78.

These are not the decisions of someone who is mentally all there.

Just because you don't agree with the decisions doesn't make them mentally unsound.  That's a dangerous mode of thinking to fall into.

[Hammy]

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You still haven't explained how the decision is as a result of him being 78.

These are not the decisions of someone who is mentally all there.

Just because you don't agree with the decisions doesn't make them mentally unsound.  That's a dangerous mode of thinking to fall into.

Yes because clearly somebody who should know better pushing through a mandate with no teeth, as the people who are spreading covid to the rest of the public are exempt, is somehow a very sane and safe proposal.

The president of all people should know that this would not impact franchise stores, and Biden pushing this shows he's either an idiot or a coward and I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend otherwise just because it's 'my side' being the fool now.

This is almost on par with Trump's "stop the testing so numbers go down" proposal, and it increasingly feels he isn't giving the situation the serious consideration it requires.

[emailking]

Of course he knew the vaccine or testing mandate wouldn't affect franchises. Those are small businesses and so not covered under OSHA. Would you rather he just do nothing? There's no way to get the franchises covered under OSHA. The mandate does have teeth for the 100 million workers covered. There also isn't a group that it should apply to the most. We just need to get the numbers up. Your big concern has been variants forming. They're not more likely to form in fast food workers.

[Hammy]

Of course he knew the vaccine or testing mandate wouldn't affect franchises. Those are small businesses and so not covered under OSHA. Would you rather he just do nothing? There's no way to get the franchises covered under OSHA. The mandate does have teeth for the 100 million workers covered. There also isn't a group that it should apply to the most. We just need to get the numbers up. Your big concern has been variants forming. They're not more likely to form in fast food workers.

They're most likely to form where people have the most spreading capability. If you're working directly with the public, you're going to spread it more than an office worker who is generally around the same people consistently.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki on July 23rd 2021 when asked about a Federal vaccine mandate.

That's not the role of the federal government. That's the role that institutions, private-sector entities, and others, may take.

The CDC director a week later on July 30th clarified a previous statement.

To clarify: There will be no nationwide mandate. I was referring to mandates by private institutions and portions of the federal government. There will be no federal mandate.

It's weird that Biden's own mouthpiece knew last week that they couldn't do a vaccine mandate, currently knows that he can't do a nationwide mask mandate but thinks he can do a nationwide vaccine mandate.

It's clear from the context, she was responding to a question concerning a vaccine mandate imposed directly upon individuals by the Federal government, not this mandate which is being routed through employers.

the govt probably can impose directly upon civilians cite.  In my opinion, passing the buck off to employers is worse (and much less constitutionally sound).

Any guesses as to why Biden knows he can't do a mask mandate but thinks he can do a vaccine mandate?

Jacobson was about the power of a State government to impose an individual vaccine mandate. It's doubtful that the Federal government has the same power. A Federal individual vaccine mandate certainly would require a far more expansive interpretation of the Commerce Clause than SCOTUS has entertained in decades.

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[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Pretty sure pollsters oversample people who are worried about COVID regulations. The reason for this is because people who are more worried about COVID are more likely to be at home and able to answer their phone.

[emailking]

Pretty sure pollsters oversample people who are worried about COVID regulations. The reason for this is because people who are more worried about COVID are more likely to be at home and able to answer their phone.

Ok so if you want go ahead and add/subtract 3 points from the various numbers in this poll, which is the most that final election poll is off by.

[7,052,770]

Pretty sure pollsters oversample people who are worried about COVID regulations. The reason for this is because people who are more worried about COVID are more likely to be at home and able to answer their phone.

You think Fox isn't aware of that when adjusting their results?