Pete Buttigeig: Mask Mandates on planes a matter of respect

[Ferguson97]

Was interrupting Bernie nonstop a matter of respect as well?

The primary was over a year ago.

[Motorcity]

I wear my mask at times, even though I'm fully vaccinated solely because of the feelings of those brainwashed by those who have a political stake in keeping the pandemic conditions going.  It's theater, but I don't blame the brainwashed and deceived on their need to be reassured by Mask Theater.

Pete Buttigieg is, of course, a pathetic lackey.  This virtue signaling he puts on display here should be enough to induce vomiting in rational people.  If people can't work up a good puke, a ROFL response would be an adequate alternative.

As long as you abide by the rules of mask theater, they’ll never let you go

Take your mask off. We need to defeat the mask extremists, who pose a huge threat to our country. If it’s up to them, everyone will be forced to wear a mask forever. Had we done that, Trump would win an easy victory in 2024 and we can’t let that

[politicallefty]

I can remember when oppression meant something far worse than having to wear a facial covering in crowded places.

[Del Tachi]

Ah yes, let's wear masks not because they work but because they signal "respect" for self-important public health bureaucrats and the establishment-driven media narratives supporting them.

[Calthrina950]

Ah yes, let's wear masks not because they work but because they signal "respect" for self-important public health bureaucrats and the establishment-driven media narratives that lend them so much unearned credibility.

I think the points which you've made about mask mandates and their efficacy seem to have more to them then I would have appreciated a few months ago. It is astonishing to me how quickly most people have discarded masks, but it's also heartening.

[Continential]

Re: Pete Buttigeig: Mask Mandates on planes a matter of respect
I am surprised that people still misspell Buttigieg, more than a year after Buttigieg gained national prominence.

[politicallefty]

Ah yes, let's wear masks not because they work but because they signal "respect" for self-important public health bureaucrats and the establishment-driven media narratives that lend them so much unearned credibility.

I think the points which you've made about mask mandates and their efficacy seem to have more to them then I would have appreciated a few months ago. It is astonishing to me how quickly most people have discarded masks, but it's also heartening.

If it wasn't for Trump, this wouldn't be a political thing. No one needs to tell the Asians countries twice to wear masks when there's a nasty pathogen loose. I don't think it's that difficult to be extra careful and crush this pandemic with every measure we have. If people want to wear masks voluntarily during the colder months, that's fine. I also think people that are sick (or think they might be sick) should wear masks in public. That's something we should adopt from the Asian countries. This should be an opportunity for societal change for the better. Unfortunately, it's hard for some to be considerate of others.

[Motorcity]

Ah yes, let's wear masks not because they work but because they signal "respect" for self-important public health bureaucrats and the establishment-driven media narratives that lend them so much unearned credibility.

I think the points which you've made about mask mandates and their efficacy seem to have more to them then I would have appreciated a few months ago. It is astonishing to me how quickly most people have discarded masks, but it's also heartening.

If it wasn't for Trump, this wouldn't be a political thing. No one needs to tell the Asians countries twice to wear masks when there's a nasty pathogen loose. I don't think it's that difficult to be extra careful and crush this pandemic with every measure we have. If people want to wear masks voluntarily during the colder months, that's fine. I also think people that are sick (or think they might be sick) should wear masks in public. That's something we should adopt from the Asian countries. This should be an opportunity for societal change for the better. Unfortunately, it's hard for some to be considerate of others.

No one is aganist people wearing masks voluntarily

The extremeists on social media want to mandate masks forever, despite all the science saying vaccinated people are safe.

Its annoying because this was obvious months ago but the CDC dragged their feet

And now, Pete Bootyboy is saying people should still be forced to wear masks on planes, vaccinated or not, out of respect

This is silly. A mask does nothing for a vaccinated person. Its just hygeine theater. But respecting extremists is what he is going for...

[Calthrina950]

Ah yes, let's wear masks not because they work but because they signal "respect" for self-important public health bureaucrats and the establishment-driven media narratives that lend them so much unearned credibility.

I think the points which you've made about mask mandates and their efficacy seem to have more to them then I would have appreciated a few months ago. It is astonishing to me how quickly most people have discarded masks, but it's also heartening.

If it wasn't for Trump, this wouldn't be a political thing. No one needs to tell the Asians countries twice to wear masks when there's a nasty pathogen loose. I don't think it's that difficult to be extra careful and crush this pandemic with every measure we have. If people want to wear masks voluntarily during the colder months, that's fine. I also think people that are sick (or think they might be sick) should wear masks in public. That's something we should adopt from the Asian countries. This should be an opportunity for societal change for the better. Unfortunately, it's hard for some to be considerate of others.

I don't disagree with any of this. I was speaking more to the fact that masks-while a necessary measure-have certainly introduced an additional element of abnormality into our society, and that they shouldn't (and won't be) permanent.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I really can't take Howdy Doody seriously on any subject.

[President Johnson]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

[Calthrina950]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

If only you could convince my stepmother of this.

[MATTROSE94]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

What’s the situation on the ground in Europe regarding masks? I recall reading that several European countries such as France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and the UK mandated masks for fully vaccinated people due to higher case numbers per capita than the US at least several weeks ago, but I don’t know if that policy changed in recent weeks or not.

[Del Tachi]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

If only you could convince my stepmother of this.

This brings up an interesting point that I don't think gets enough air time.  Many people who rushed out to get the vaccine as soon as they could have no idea what it does or what level of protection it provides.  They're just as (if not more) scientifically illiterate as the anti-vax crowd but with the added "virtue" of dotingly accepting the overly risk-averse CDC/MSM messaging on COVID.  Somewhere along the way this acceptance became how liberals determine how much you "believe science" or whatever.     

[Geoffrey Howe]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

What’s the situation on the ground in Europe regarding masks? I recall reading that several European countries such as France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and the UK mandated masks for fully vaccinated people due to higher case numbers per capita than the US at least several weeks ago, but I don’t know if that policy changed in recent weeks or not.

Vaccinated people still wear masks here. But no one wears masks outdoors and indoors/on public transport I've noticed people becoming much more lax. Masks no longer required in school classrooms.

[Calthrina950]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

If only you could convince my stepmother of this.

This brings up an interesting point that I don't think gets enough air time.  Many people who rushed out to get the vaccine as soon as they could have no idea what it does or what level of protection it provides.  They're just as (if not more) scientifically illiterate as the anti-vax crowd but with the added "virtue" of dotingly accepting the overly risk-averse CDC/MSM messaging on COVID.  Somewhere along the way this acceptance became how liberals determine how much you "believe science" or whatever.     

So are you saying that my stepmother (and father) are justified in their reasoning? I've posted a thread talking about how they're still not fully convinced of the efficacy of the vaccines and want for me to wear a mask around them at home, if I chose to go maskless at my job (and I've been doing so since I reached the two-week period after getting my second dose). I'm pretty well convinced at this point, after almost six months, that the vaccines are making an impact and that the pandemic is receding. But my family still seems to think that a resurgence is possible and that not much is different from last year.

[Del Tachi]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

If only you could convince my stepmother of this.

This brings up an interesting point that I don't think gets enough air time.  Many people who rushed out to get the vaccine as soon as they could have no idea what it does or what level of protection it provides.  They're just as (if not more) scientifically illiterate as the anti-vax crowd but with the added "virtue" of dotingly accepting the overly risk-averse CDC/MSM messaging on COVID.  Somewhere along the way this acceptance became how liberals determine how much you "believe science" or whatever.     

So are you saying that my stepmother (and father) are justified in their reasoning? I've posted a thread talking about how they're still not fully convinced of the efficacy of the vaccines and want for me to wear a mask around them at home, if I chose to go maskless at my job (and I've been doing so since I reached the two-week period after getting my second dose). I'm pretty well convinced at this point, after almost six months, that the vaccines are making an impact and that the pandemic is receding. But my family still seems to think that a resurgence is possible and that not much is different from last year.

No, I think they're completely unjustified in their reasoning.  But their level of illogical risk aversion has been revered by mainstream media and the public health czars as virtuous throughout the course of this pandemic, and that's a sign of how broken our media and how vacuous the calls to "believe science" has been all along. 

[Calthrina950]

I'm actually opposed to this. Fully vaccinated people shouldn't be subject to any mask mandates whatsoever. It doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint as vaccinated people don't transmit the virus. Furthermore, lifting restructions creates incentives to folks to actually get a shot.

If only you could convince my stepmother of this.

This brings up an interesting point that I don't think gets enough air time.  Many people who rushed out to get the vaccine as soon as they could have no idea what it does or what level of protection it provides.  They're just as (if not more) scientifically illiterate as the anti-vax crowd but with the added "virtue" of dotingly accepting the overly risk-averse CDC/MSM messaging on COVID.  Somewhere along the way this acceptance became how liberals determine how much you "believe science" or whatever.     

So are you saying that my stepmother (and father) are justified in their reasoning? I've posted a thread talking about how they're still not fully convinced of the efficacy of the vaccines and want for me to wear a mask around them at home, if I chose to go maskless at my job (and I've been doing so since I reached the two-week period after getting my second dose). I'm pretty well convinced at this point, after almost six months, that the vaccines are making an impact and that the pandemic is receding. But my family still seems to think that a resurgence is possible and that not much is different from last year.

No, I think they're completely unjustified in their reasoning.  But their level of illogical risk aversion has been revered by mainstream media and the public health czars as virtuous throughout the course of this pandemic, and that's a sign of how broken our media and how vacuous the calls to "believe science" has been all along. 

What I find especially astonishing about my father's behavior is that he voted for Trump, and that he's expressed skepticism of Fauci. But he's basing his new "household rule", if you will, on an article which he read in AARP, which emphasizes that one can still catch the virus even if you get the vaccine and that masks in public still are important until we've reached herd immunity-that is, when 70-85% of the U.S. population has been vaccinated. That same article says that it is unclear when we will reach that point. However, the article is from AARP's issue for May 2021, so it was written before the CDC changed its mask-wearing recommendations.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I can sort of understand this while you are actually on an airplane, but why are masks still required at all times in the airport?  How is this different than any other indoor space?