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F. Joe Haydn
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« on: May 03, 2021, 12:56:23 PM »

Recently, I was thinking of how I would describe my perception of various Christian denominations using just a couple of words or concepts. This is what I came up with:

Congregationalism: Liberalism, Puritanism

Presbyterianism: Moral stricture, Scottish identity

Lutheranism: Temperance, sola scriptura

Anglicanism/Episcopalianism: Monarchism, Toryism

Catholicism: Traditionalism, hierarchy

Methodism: Revivalism, the working class

Quakers: Pacificism, Progressivism

Moravians: Love, kinship

Baptists: Conservatism, Fundamentalism

For me, what's fun about this is that everyone probably has different ideas based on their own religious background or personal experience. Also, I know there are plenty of other denominations, even another major branch in the Eastern Orthodox Church, but I decided to limit myself to Mainline Protestantism and Catholicism.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 01:05:12 PM »

Anglicanism: status, refinement
Presbyterianism: education, wealth
Methodism: middle-class sensibilities
Baptism: poverty, hickishness
Pentecostalism: snakes
Lutheranism: lutefisk, hot dish
Quakers: oats, Nixon
Catholicism: catfish, trout
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 01:27:38 PM »

Catholicism: Ornateness, (checkered) history
Orthodoxy: Even more ornateness, even more (and even more checkered) history
Anglicanism: Latitude, good writing
Lutheranism: Bad food, good music
Calvinism: Scholarship, severity
Congregationalism: Austerity, democracy
Methodism: Moderation, piety
LDS: Weirdness, conformism (but conformism to a weird standard)
Evangelicalism: Passion, philistinism
Pentecostalism: Poverty, zeal
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 01:31:50 PM »

Methodism: Hymns
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 02:04:39 PM »
« Edited: May 03, 2021, 02:21:51 PM by HenryWallaceVP »

Catholicism: Ornateness, (checkered) history
Orthodoxy: Even more ornateness, even more (and even more checkered) history
Anglicanism: Latitude, good writing
Lutheranism: Bad food, good music
Calvinism: Scholarship, severity
Congregationalism: Austerity, democracy
Methodism: Moderation, piety
LDS: Weirdness, conformism (but conformism to a weird standard)
Evangelicalism: Passion, philistinism
Pentecostalism: Poverty, zeal

Damn, I definitely should have said something about music for Lutheranism. I actually had The Well-Tempered Clavier in the back of my head when I wrote "temperance". Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 02:15:56 PM »

Catholicism: Smells and bells, large families, guilt and repression
Anglicanism (in the UK): ‘Default’ option (for most nominal members), old Tories (for the devout)
Episcopalianism (in the US): WASPiness, liberalism
Methodism: Labour Party (UK), most average denomination (US)
Congregationalism: Liberal-left, Puritanism, whitewashed churches on New England village greens
Lutheranism: Scandinavians and Germans, egalitarianism
Mormons: American Jesus, ex-polygamists
Southern Baptists: Religious Right
Presbyterianism: Scots, dourness, work ethic and industry
Quakers: Friendly, principled

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 02:35:03 PM »

Catholicism: Smells and bells, large families, guilt and repression
Anglicanism (in the UK): ‘Default’ option (for most nominal members), old Tories (for the devout)
Episcopalianism (in the US): WASPiness, liberalism
Methodism: Labour Party (UK), most average denomination (US)
Congregationalism: Liberal-left, Puritanism, whitewashed churches on New England village greens
Lutheranism: Scandinavians and Germans, egalitarianism
Mormons: American Jesus, ex-polygamists
Southern Baptists: Religious Right
Presbyterianism: Scots, dourness, work ethic and industry
Quakers: Friendly, principled


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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 06:45:03 PM »

Anglicans: hip priests and grey haired Tory women
Catholics: either people with Irish ancestry or weirdo intellectuals
Presbyterians: dour and obsessed with keeping Sunday a day of rest
Methodists: Welsh, working class
Baptists: happy clappy do-gooders
Pentecostals: BAME immigrants
Jehovah's Witnesses: hawking literature outside tube stations
Orthodox: extremely online weirdo intellectuals, either ultra trad, communist, or both
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 06:57:44 PM »

Anglicanism: Educated, proper
Lutheranism: Nice, beer
Methodism: Singing, moderation
Baptist: Dunking, holy roller
Presbyterianism: Elders, Calvinist
Congregationalism: Democracy, simplicity
Quakers: Peace, human rights
Catholics: Tradition, wine
Greek Orthodox: Smells and bells, icons
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2021, 08:37:22 PM »

Episcopalian: Book of Common Prayer, well-off Northeasterners
Presbyterian: Scottish, no-frills, sort of Calvinist
Methodist: moderate
Lutheran: Midwestern, lovers of potato salad
Baptist: Southern, influence of the Black Church in the US
Catholic: impressive Liturgy, ethnic, lots of celebrating the Virgin Mary
Mormons/LDS: Teenage boys on mission desperately trying to get Europeans to talk to them
Orthodox: Beautiful cathedrals/churches
Congregationalist: New England
Unitarian Universalists: fancy agnostics
Quakers: only speaking in the meeting house when God compels you, like in "Fleabag"
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2021, 12:04:34 AM »

I should point out here that just as Christians were first given our name at Antioch, Methodists were first given that name at Oxford, and were called such to mock their fanaticism relative to their more “moderate” peers.

Associating Methodism with hymns and the working class is entirely fair. The Wesley’s had a very odd coded language, and we are thus still discovering and translating some of Charles Wesley’s hymns to this day.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2021, 12:28:51 PM »

I should point out here that just as Christians were first given our name at Antioch, Methodists were first given that name at Oxford, and were called such to mock their fanaticism relative to their more “moderate” peers.

Associating Methodism with hymns and the working class is entirely fair. The Wesley’s had a very odd coded language, and we are thus still discovering and translating some of Charles Wesley’s hymns to this day.

Were Methodists really viewed as fanatics back in the early years in England?
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2021, 12:44:30 PM »

I should point out here that just as Christians were first given our name at Antioch, Methodists were first given that name at Oxford, and were called such to mock their fanaticism relative to their more “moderate” peers.

Associating Methodism with hymns and the working class is entirely fair. The Wesley’s had a very odd coded language, and we are thus still discovering and translating some of Charles Wesley’s hymns to this day.

Were Methodists really viewed as fanatics back in the early years in England?

They were.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2021, 12:52:45 PM »

I can't really do this. I have positive and negative associations with any faith you can name to make anything I put personally meaningless Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2021, 03:30:52 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2021, 03:36:09 PM by Speak No Evil for one month »

Congregationalism: Puritanism (historically), Progressivism (modern)

Presbyterianism: Scottish identity, similar moral value system as Catholicism but without the Sacraments

Lutheranism: German and Scandinavian identity

Anglicanism/Episcopalianism: Toryism (historically), Gay Catholics (modern)

Catholicism: Traditionalism, hierarchy, rich intellectual history

Methodism: Big tent theology with a shrinking tent. The next church to experience a large schism. Otherwise, pretty generic Christianity where you can pretty much believe whatever you want.

Quakers: Pacificism, Progressivism, Silent meetings in lieu of conventional worship, Oatmeal, Early history of Pennsylvania

Moravians: Fellowship and servitude

Baptists: Nondenoms if they picked a denomination, with wide variances between white Baptists and black Baptists, especially in the South

LDS: Strong sense of fellowship and servitude but otherwise too wholesome; no fun allowed

Orthdox: Russian culture, Greek culture, Icons, Aesthetics
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2021, 06:07:02 PM »

Catholicism: Ornateness. Innately dual (populist/elitist, radical/reactionary). Default form of Christianity in my life experience. An uneasy chasm between its overwhelming influence on this country and a sense of great absence of observant Catholics in my (non-online) social ties.
Orthodoxy: Icons. Romanian immigrants.
Anglicanism/Episcopalianism: Americans who would be Catholic if not for scary mean theology of sexuality. Saint Paul's Within the Walls.
Lutheranism: Germans and Scandinavians. Very low rates of church attendance.
Calvinism: Dourness and austerity. People in the Dutch countryside unhappy about living in the same nation as De Wallen.
Anabaptism: The brutal repression of the Great Peasants' Revolt and Thomas Müntzer. Insular communities skeptical of technology.
Congregationalism: Small churches in rural New England which are probably now unused.
Methodism: Wales. West Virginia. Coal miners, I assume. Also loads of hymns.
Pentecostalism: Speaking in tongues. Weird worship structure and practices. Latin American immigrants converted from Catholicism.
Adventism: Annihilationism. Vegetarianism. Observing the Sabbath.
Baptists: Megachurches in the American South. The English pastor and locally active missionary Edward Clarke.
Quakers: The Publick Universal Friend. Oatmeal.
Waldensians: Piedmont valleys with a strong progressive tradition.
Moravians: A certain user of this forum who likes 17th-century England a bit too much.
Latter-Day Saints: Nice missionaries from Utah who have learned Italian remarkably well and give out pamphlets.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2021, 12:06:40 PM »

Interestingly enough, even though Geoffrey Howe was personally an Anglican, his paternal grandfather, founder-member of the Tinplaters’ Union, founded several Welsh ‘Calvinistic Methodist’ chapels around the Valleys. (Howe grew up in Port Talbot.)
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2021, 06:56:21 PM »

The difference between Protestant and Catholics and Jehovah witnesses and Muslim and Jews is Purgatory, Catholics put in Purgatory like the Underworld in Norse Mythology, as a place to wait to Judgement Day

The others like Muslims believe the Resurrection is Judgement Day but we haven't had a Spiritual Rapture, our ending is likely an asteroid hitting the Earth.

Astral plane is Purgatory that we temporarily are dormant in when we sleep

There can be Reincarnation but it's difficult to prove and it takes a long time to reincarnate like 300, yrs, meaning we can meet our immediate family in the afterlife
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2021, 04:50:19 PM »

Anglicans: hip priests and grey haired Tory women
Catholics: either people with Irish ancestry or weirdo intellectuals
Presbyterians: dour and obsessed with keeping Sunday a day of rest
Methodists: Welsh, working class
Baptists: happy clappy do-gooders
Pentecostals: BAME immigrants
Jehovah's Witnesses: hawking literature outside tube stations
Orthodox: extremely online weirdo intellectuals, either ultra trad, communist, or both

Pentecostals are more pro-immigrant than you think
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2021, 04:53:39 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2021, 05:00:20 PM by Southern Deputy Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »

Anglicans: hip priests and grey haired Tory women
Catholics: either people with Irish ancestry or weirdo intellectuals
Presbyterians: dour and obsessed with keeping Sunday a day of rest
Methodists: Welsh, working class
Baptists: happy clappy do-gooders
Pentecostals: BAME immigrants
Jehovah's Witnesses: hawking literature outside tube stations
Orthodox: extremely online weirdo intellectuals, either ultra trad, communist, or both

Pentecostals are more pro-immigrant than you think
BAME=Black And Minority Ethnic (I think)
British term. You don't see anyone using it in America.
EDIT: It's "Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic"
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2021, 10:36:06 AM »

Anglicans: hip priests and grey haired Tory women
Catholics: either people with Irish ancestry or weirdo intellectuals
Presbyterians: dour and obsessed with keeping Sunday a day of rest
Methodists: Welsh, working class
Baptists: happy clappy do-gooders
Pentecostals: BAME immigrants
Jehovah's Witnesses: hawking literature outside tube stations
Orthodox: extremely online weirdo intellectuals, either ultra trad, communist, or both

Pentecostals are more pro-immigrant than you think
BAME=Black And Minority Ethnic (I think)
British term. You don't see anyone using it in America.
EDIT: It's "Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic"

Yeah a friend of mine has very devout Pentecostal parents who came here from India.
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2021, 10:36:56 AM »

Anglicans: hip priests and grey haired Tory women
Catholics: either people with Irish ancestry or weirdo intellectuals
Presbyterians: dour and obsessed with keeping Sunday a day of rest
Methodists: Welsh, working class
Baptists: happy clappy do-gooders
Pentecostals: BAME immigrants
Jehovah's Witnesses: hawking literature outside tube stations
Orthodox: extremely online weirdo intellectuals, either ultra trad, communist, or both

Pentecostals are more pro-immigrant than you think
BAME=Black And Minority Ethnic (I think)
British term. You don't see anyone using it in America.
EDIT: It's "Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic"

Yeah a friend of mine has very devout Pentecostal parents who came here from India.
Not at all surprising I suppose.
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2021, 07:47:55 PM »

Episcopal/Anglican: Catholic-lite
White Baptist:  Hypocrisy, fundamentalism, megachurches
Catholicism: Rituals, power grabs, icons
Adventists: Conformity
LDS: Wholesomeness, large families, Utah, Tonga
Calvinism: Doomerism, fundamentalism
JWs: No fun allowed
Orthodox: Icons, Russia or Greece
Quakers: Pacifism
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2021, 07:57:53 PM »

Christians: "We don't care about your silly pronouns; they're too confusing!"

Also Christians:

Catholicism: Ornateness. Innately dual (populist/elitist, radical/reactionary). Default form of Christianity in my life experience. An uneasy chasm between its overwhelming influence on this country and a sense of great absence of observant Catholics in my (non-online) social ties.
Orthodoxy: Icons. Romanian immigrants.
Anglicanism/Episcopalianism: Americans who would be Catholic if not for scary mean theology of sexuality. Saint Paul's Within the Walls.
Lutheranism: Germans and Scandinavians. Very low rates of church attendance.
Calvinism: Dourness and austerity. People in the Dutch countryside unhappy about living in the same nation as De Wallen.
Anabaptism: The brutal repression of the Great Peasants' Revolt and Thomas Müntzer. Insular communities skeptical of technology.
Congregationalism: Small churches in rural New England which are probably now unused.
Methodism: Wales. West Virginia. Coal miners, I assume. Also loads of hymns.
Pentecostalism: Speaking in tongues. Weird worship structure and practices. Latin American immigrants converted from Catholicism.
Adventism: Annihilationism. Vegetarianism. Observing the Sabbath.
Baptists: Megachurches in the American South. The English pastor and locally active missionary Edward Clarke.
Quakers: The Publick Universal Friend. Oatmeal.
Waldensians: Piedmont valleys with a strong progressive tradition.
Moravians: A certain user of this forum who likes 17th-century England a bit too much.
Latter-Day Saints: Nice missionaries from Utah who have learned Italian remarkably well and give out pamphlets.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2021, 04:16:27 AM »

Christians: "We don't care about your silly pronouns; they're too confusing!"

Also Christians:

Catholicism: Ornateness. Innately dual (populist/elitist, radical/reactionary). Default form of Christianity in my life experience. An uneasy chasm between its overwhelming influence on this country and a sense of great absence of observant Catholics in my (non-online) social ties.
Orthodoxy: Icons. Romanian immigrants.
Anglicanism/Episcopalianism: Americans who would be Catholic if not for scary mean theology of sexuality. Saint Paul's Within the Walls.
Lutheranism: Germans and Scandinavians. Very low rates of church attendance.
Calvinism: Dourness and austerity. People in the Dutch countryside unhappy about living in the same nation as De Wallen.
Anabaptism: The brutal repression of the Great Peasants' Revolt and Thomas Müntzer. Insular communities skeptical of technology.
Congregationalism: Small churches in rural New England which are probably now unused.
Methodism: Wales. West Virginia. Coal miners, I assume. Also loads of hymns.
Pentecostalism: Speaking in tongues. Weird worship structure and practices. Latin American immigrants converted from Catholicism.
Adventism: Annihilationism. Vegetarianism. Observing the Sabbath.
Baptists: Megachurches in the American South. The English pastor and locally active missionary Edward Clarke.
Quakers: The Publick Universal Friend. Oatmeal.
Waldensians: Piedmont valleys with a strong progressive tradition.
Moravians: A certain user of this forum who likes 17th-century England a bit too much.
Latter-Day Saints: Nice missionaries from Utah who have learned Italian remarkably well and give out pamphlets.

From your reference to "silly pronouns" it appears that you have just confused me with BRTD, so maybe it is indeed true that this stuff is confusing.
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