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« on: September 09, 2006, 09:40:41 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2006, 11:55:10 PM »

A right-wing candidate would emerge, splitting the Republican vote slightly more than Nader did in 2000, and Sebelius would win.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2006, 01:26:45 AM »

Sebelius would almost certainly win, as Guliani would not appeal to the Republican base at all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2006, 11:00:47 AM »

Assuming the Republican base decides hold their noses and support Giuliani or just not vote(which an assumption that can't really be made):



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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2006, 11:24:53 AM »

Assuming the Republican base decides hold their noses and support Giuliani or just not vote(which an assumption that can't really be made):



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Ah, seeing as we're spinning rather than predicting, I'll offer up this:

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2006, 01:11:28 PM »

Assuming the Republican base decides hold their noses and support Giuliani or just not vote(which an assumption that can't really be made):



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Ah, seeing as we're spinning rather than predicting, I'll offer up this:



I would vote for Sebelius, but I think Guiliani would kick her ass.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2006, 01:30:32 PM »

A right-wing candidate would emerge, splitting the Republican vote slightly more than Nader did in 2000, and Sebelius would win.

Agreed.

Sebelius/Warner vs. Guiliani/Huckabee vs. Some Conservative/Some Conservative



Sebelius 360-178

Popular vote:

Sebelius: 48%
Giuliani: 44%
Some Conservative: 8%


Maybe I'm overstating the thrid party influence, but Guiliani does not break 50% in any southern state except Arkansas, although he wins them by 8-10 point margins.

Guiliani wouldn't lose in a landslide (he's far too charismatic for that), but the conservatives would ultimately bring him down.


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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2006, 02:13:58 PM »

A right-wing candidate would emerge, splitting the Republican vote slightly more than Nader did in 2000, and Sebelius would win.

Agreed.

Sebelius/Warner vs. Guiliani/Huckabee vs. Some Conservative/Some Conservative



Sebelius 360-178

Popular vote:

Sebelius: 48%
Giuliani: 44%
Some Conservative: 8%


Maybe I'm overstating the thrid party influence, but Guiliani does not break 50% in any southern state except Arkansas, although he wins them by 8-10 point margins.

Guiliani wouldn't lose in a landslide (he's far too charismatic for that), but the conservatives would ultimately bring him down.




I think you hit the nail on the head with this.  I was going to post virtually the same exact thing.  The breakaway conservative might poll a little less, but no lower than 5%.  Either way, he would draw enough votes away from Giuliani to give the election to Sebelius (whom i would probably vote for).
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2006, 03:34:45 PM »

Giulani would smash her
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2006, 04:14:57 PM »

We Dems will crucify Guiliani for his cheating (which the Republicans made fair game). Nominate him, please!
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2006, 04:17:29 PM »

We Dems will crucify Guiliani for his cheating (which the Republicans made fair game). Nominate him, please!

Wouldn't that be a little hypocritical?
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2006, 06:01:21 PM »

I would go for a third party.
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2006, 03:03:42 AM »

I would go for Kathy without hesitation and I think she would win the PV by a margin of at least 57-43 and take several of the Bush states from 2004 and keep most of Kerry's states.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2006, 06:54:48 AM »

I would go for Kathy without hesitation and I think she would win the PV by a margin of at least 57-43 and take several of the Bush states from 2004 and keep most of Kerry's states.

It is rare enough for a popular President to be re-elected with 57% of the vote.  Unless she was up against a disaster of a candidate, i don't see her getting nearly that high in a first term bid. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 02:53:07 PM »

Giuliani will win; Sebelius should win.
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2006, 03:29:44 PM »

Not that close but staunch conservative sweeps South yet does nothing in the majority of the rest of the country:

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2006, 05:33:26 PM »

Not that close but staunch conservative sweeps South yet does nothing in the majority of the rest of the country:



Giuliani isn't that left wing. In fact, as far as national security goes (which is usually the biggest issue in races these days) I would say he is farther right wing than most.
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2006, 07:09:48 PM »

I love the inclination around here for a supposed third party or candidate to sweep a bunch of states on the right, center, or left - when the chances of that happening are far less than even these candidates being nominated.
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