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« on: August 21, 2006, 01:31:30 PM »

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Corbella_Licia/2006/08/21/1767214.html


Mon, August 21, 2006


Praying aloud gets man jailed.
Something's wrong with police priorities


By Licia Corbella

 
Maybe if Artur Pawlowski had been holding a flag of the outlawed terrorist organization Hezbollah, Calgary Police would have left him alone.

Perhaps had they seen him on a street corner smoking crack cocaine -- or selling it -- they would have turned the other cheek, as is so often the case.

But Pawlowski was clearly doing something much more provocative Wednesday afternoon on the corner of 17 Ave. and 8 St. S.W. He -- along with about six other people -- were praying and reading the Bible.

Pawlowski, 33, who has been helping the homeless for years, gave up his lucrative home-building business last year to start up The Street Church full-time.

With the support of area churches, he spends most of his time feeding, clothing, housing and loving members of Calgary's homeless population. He starts by taking his church to them -- in front of the Drop-In Centre mostly, but for the past four years, he has often preached to the drug dealers and street kids who congregate in the block-long park in front of Mount Royal Village shopping centre.

Because Pawlowski has been threatened so often by drug dealers angry their clients often turn away from drugs as a result of his message of hope and help, he started videotaping every outing. Wednesday's was no different.

Pawlowski and his friends, including his younger brother, David, stood in the far southeast corner of the park praying and reading the Bible.


Shawn Pierson, 25, once a street person himself who is "one of the fruits" of Pawlowski's ministry can be seen and heard on the videotape reading from Psalm 140: "'O Lord, I say to you, 'You are my God.' Hear, O Lord, my cry for mercy.' "

Such activity was clearly too fringe for the Fringe Festival underway in tents further west (and out of earshot) in the park. On Monday, Pawlowski and his brother went to the park, talked with tarot card readers and other practisers of "sorcery" to tell them the Bible condemns such practices. Video shows they remained calm but the vendors became agitated. Event organizers called police and Pawlowski and his brother David were asked not to talk to the vendors again. They agreed and left.

On Wednesday, when they returned to pray, they stayed far away from the vendors. Organizers called police anyway.

The video shows Pawlowski standing on the public sidewalk with his hands in his pockets. He asks a burly police officer in a calm voice, "Why are you harassing me? What did I do wrong?" The police officer responds with: "I'm going to arrest you for obstruction."

At that, Pawlowski is handcuffed and made to walk backwards to the police cruiser where he was frisked.

Pawlowski is then heard telling the police officer about his Charter rights to freedom of speech, assembly and religion, pointing out his family immigrated to Canada from communist Poland so they could be free from oppression.

He was also charged with trespassing and disturbing the peace. He spent one night in jail and is to appear in court on Sept. 7.

Insp. Ed Yeomans confirmed Pawlowski's story, saying Wednesday's arrest was the police's second dealing with Pawlowski. "One vendor closed up her booth and others left the park because that man and his group were causing a disturbance to other users of the festival," said Yeomans.

But the video shows clearly Pawlowski and his group did not approach vendors.

Do people have a right to read the Bible in a public place? Obviously, some don't think so.

Many Calgarians will likely read this and shrug. But consider this: The video clearly shows six police officers attending to the calm Pawlowski. Your tax dollars at work, folks!

What's ironic, said Pawlowski, was he saw a couple of known drug dealers watching as he got arrested.

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2006, 02:04:52 PM »



It's a shame, but if he needed to have a permit or whatever in order to assemble at that spot, then he did break the law. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2006, 02:46:04 PM »



It's a shame, but if he needed to have a permit or whatever in order to assemble at that spot, then he did break the law. 

How many people warrant an assembly?  If ten people go to the public park for a picnic and pray before eating, do they need a permit?
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2006, 03:03:24 PM »



It's a shame, but if he needed to have a permit or whatever in order to assemble at that spot, then he did break the law. 

How many people warrant an assembly?  If ten people go to the public park for a picnic and pray before eating, do they need a permit?

I think that depends on the location/venue and the local regulations.  To me, 10 people gathering together could be considered an assembly.  Two people, on the other hand, is not.
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2006, 03:24:46 PM »



It's a shame, but if he needed to have a permit or whatever in order to assemble at that spot, then he did break the law. 


How many people warrant an assembly?  If ten people go to the public park for a picnic and pray before eating, do they need a permit?

I think that depends on the location/venue and the local regulations.  To me, 10 people gathering together could be considered an assembly.  Two people, on the other hand, is not.

Nothing in the article suggests that a permit was required nor that he did not have one.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2006, 03:31:13 PM »



It's a shame, but if he needed to have a permit or whatever in order to assemble at that spot, then he did break the law. 


How many people warrant an assembly?  If ten people go to the public park for a picnic and pray before eating, do they need a permit?

I think that depends on the location/venue and the local regulations.  To me, 10 people gathering together could be considered an assembly.  Two people, on the other hand, is not.

Nothing in the article suggests that a permit was required nor that he did not have one.


I know, which is why I mentioned it (maybe I didn't phrase it correctly). 
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2006, 08:34:55 PM »

The police men involved should be disciplined, fined, jailed for kidnapping, and then fired.  The government needs to apologize to the individual and compensate him a few thousand dollars for lost time.  This is unacceptable.  And this is CANADA.  A so-called free country.  If he had a gun he would have been well justified shooting the cop(s), trying to assault him like that.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2006, 08:52:39 PM »

It is possible that the Fringe Festival did have such a permit and that it covered the use of the whole park by the Festival.  If so, then he may have been in an area that had been made for the period of the festival effectively non-public.  Furthermore, he apparently had been so informed the first time he showed up there.  While, six police officers sounds excessive, there really is no way for them to have before hand that Mr. Pawlowski would be so peacable about being arrested for disturbing the peace of the Fringers.

That said, if the Festival wasn't using the whole park, it should have had a narrower permit for only part of the park.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2006, 10:45:11 PM »



It's a shame, but if he needed to have a permit or whatever in order to assemble at that spot, then he did break the law. 

I agree.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2006, 12:32:52 PM »

Biased as the article is, it does make it very very VERY clear that the thread headline is a devilworshipping lie.

That said, some people should maybe take it easy. Just because a bunch of madmen wants to discuss the occult with them (and both sides are essentially that, to me) is no reason to have them arrested.

Did anyone else stumble over the line about him "loving" the homeless?
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2006, 12:42:36 AM »

Interestingly enough, there was a similiar incident in a park in South Carolina about a year ago in which a policeman went nuts and attacked some Christian home schoolers in a park.

He 'arrested' them on specious charges(the charges were latter dismissed), used excessive force (the cop was latter fired).

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