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« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2021, 01:30:48 AM »

I feel like the Democratic base wouldn’t be so anti-gun if opponents of gun control said, “Owning a gun is a victimless crime if you don’t use the gun to murder someone” rather than arguing that there’s a conspiracy to “take our guns” or that gun laws can’t possibly work.
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2021, 04:41:22 AM »

Everything can't be solved with background checks, even if you get gun control, people are gonna act outrageous when you have continued lockdowns in a Covid Environment
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2021, 05:38:28 AM »

I do not believe that owning a gun is a right. The only sensible thing to do is require a license to own a gun- that license would incorporate in it all important things like background checks and safety training. I haven't seen one compelling argument why the U.S. has a shooting epidemic while other countries with gun control do not.
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2021, 06:21:00 AM »

I feel like the Democratic base wouldn’t be so anti-gun if opponents of gun control said, “Owning a gun is a victimless crime if you don’t use the gun to murder someone”
but that is so obvious to everyone who isn't a gun control nut that it seems pointless to say all the time, but it certainly has been mentioned.
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rather than arguing that there’s a conspiracy to “take our guns” or that gun laws can’t possibly work.
There are millions of Americans who want to "take our guns" (I don't actually own a gun to take), so there is no conspiracy there and history has shown us that most the gun laws you propose or get implemented don't work.
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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2021, 01:26:54 PM »

Background checks possibly with some way to encourage proper firearm training. Aside from that no regulations, not even licenses. Anyone wanting to ban guns believes communism or fascism can't happen here until it does happen. We can't trust our government to always respect our rights and to defend its people because "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Thomas Jefferson said, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Hopefully, that isn't true; perhaps we can keep our freedoms and our country by limiting our government's powers instead of our own.
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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2021, 07:20:27 PM »

Repeal second amendment

The idea that gun control is a constitutional right is an absurd idea created by 18th century rich white people, I have no idea why we still cling to it. The Constitution is supposed to be a living document not some old rag from 400 years ago collecting dust. Put simply, the need for guns in the citizenry just does not exist today.

All this 100%. This is the issue that goes most against my libertarian tendencies
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2021, 09:07:40 PM »

I don’t really support much in the way of gun regulations. Mostly cause I don’t think the government banning things is the best way to solve any issue.

Gun rights proponents usually invoke the founding fathers (from the right) or Karl Marx (from the left) with some misconstrued quote about revolution. I don’ care about any of that and revolution isn’t happening. I just think people should be able to have guns if they want to have them.
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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2021, 09:34:22 PM »

Allow them if they were manufactured prior to 1787 or are replicas of guns manufactured prior to 1787. I don't see why anyone would need a gun made with techniques later than those used in the 18th century to hunt.
and we can have freedom of speech too, as long as we only use methods of speech available in 1787.  I don't see why anyone would need to spread their ideas using techniques that came about later than those in the 18th century.
This but unironically. No more complaining about politics on Facebook, you have to do it the old fashioned way: by yelling at passers-by in the town square or posting broadsides accusing the opposition of being filthy Tories and Hamiltonians.
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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2021, 11:09:42 PM »

Allow them if they were manufactured prior to 1787 or are replicas of guns manufactured prior to 1787. I don't see why anyone would need a gun made with techniques later than those used in the 18th century to hunt.
and we can have freedom of speech too, as long as we only use methods of speech available in 1787.  I don't see why anyone would need to spread their ideas using techniques that came about later than those in the 18th century.
Also no more post-independence religions. Sorry Mormons.
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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2021, 06:56:23 AM »

Use two hands to ensure one controls where the gun is pointed.

Sarcasm aside, I favor gun registration and licensing, but not a general ban on any additional classes of guns.
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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2021, 07:07:30 AM »

And a "comprehensive licensing system"? I don't see why it should be necessary for someone to need a "comprehensive license" to exercise their constitutional right. This sounds eerily close to the idea of a national gun registry, which would do nothing to deter crime but would ensure that law-abiding gun owners are further tracked by government and corporate authorities, while there exists a large underclass of unlicensed and unregistered firearms, that either criminals use to evade law enforcement, or otherwise law-abiding gun owners refuse to register simply because they know their guns aren't any of the government's business. Either way, it's a bad idea.

The idea that gun control is a constitutional right is an absurd idea created by 18th century rich white people, I have no idea why we still cling to it. The Constitution is supposed to be a living document not some old rag from 400 years ago collecting dust. Put simply, the need for guns in the citizenry just does not exist today.


Surely there is no point to a written constitution if you're just going to repeal rights unilaterally when you don't like them and they're old? Now that isn't to say there isn't a decent argument for repealing the 2nd Amendment, or that the 2nd Amendment even protects individual gun rights (there is a big argument about this and it is actually quite a recent idea).
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