North America now has an all left-wing trifecta of leaders

[Hatman 🍁]

Enrique Peña Nieto, Justin Trudeau, and Barack Obama were literally all leaders a half-decade ago.

Saying this with the implication that any of these people are remotely left-wing is peak Blairism - specifically, the weird post-2007 becoming-a-cranky-Tory-in-retirement Blairism. When Tony Blair was in power, he was significantly to the left of all three of these. That is something both he and his current supporters, all five of them, seem to have forgotten.

They are all out of the respective political left wings of their own countries; ergo they are left wing.

Incorrect. Trudeau is the leader of Canada's centrist party. Almost a third of Canadians voted for a party to his left. Their policies may be vaguely centre-left (debatable), but they don't represent the left on Canada's political spectrum.

I don't know enough about Mexican politics, but I'm under the impression the same could be said about President Ken Doll.

Are you counting the current incarnation of the Bloc as part of that one third to the left of Trudeau's Liberals? That doesn't seem right.

The Bloc is a bit complicated, I admit - but other than their xenophobia, I can't think of very many issues where they are to the right of the Liberals.

[Bilardista]

*Catholic liberal trifecta

Isn't AMLO an evangelical? Or does he just like to hang out with evangelicals?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

*Catholic liberal trifecta

Isn't AMLO an evangelical? Or does he just like to hang out with evangelicals?

He’s Catholic, although IIRC he prefers to call himself “guadalupano” (as in the Virgin of Guadalupe, the patron saint of Mexico who’s somewhat syncretized with indigenous beliefs). He does hang out with evangelicals a lot, though, yes.

[kaoras]

Enrique Peña Nieto, Justin Trudeau, and Barack Obama were literally all leaders a half-decade ago.

Saying this with the implication that any of these people are remotely left-wing is peak Blairism - specifically, the weird post-2007 becoming-a-cranky-Tory-in-retirement Blairism. When Tony Blair was in power, he was significantly to the left of all three of these. That is something both he and his current supporters, all five of them, seem to have forgotten.

They are all out of the respective political left wings of their own countries; ergo they are left wing. You can debate whether they're properly leftist or whatever but that would be pointless. Given a binary choice between these politicians being of the political left or the political right, they're all very obviously of the former.

Also, bringing up an irrelevant tongue-in-cheek username instead of actually responding directly to the substance of my claim is...lol.

The last time where PRI could be described as "the left wing" of Mexico was a time when there was literally nothing besides PRI, but certainly, you can't call Peña Nieto that, not even compared to PAN (besides, PRD used to be a thing in that era)

[Bilardista]

*Catholic liberal trifecta

Isn't AMLO an evangelical? Or does he just like to hang out with evangelicals?

He’s Catholic, although IIRC he prefers to call himself “guadalupano” (as in the Virgin of Guadalupe, the patron saint of Mexico who’s somewhat syncretized with indigenous beliefs). He does hang out with evangelicals a lot, though, yes.

I see, yeah, that sounds like something  AMLO would say.

[DC Al Fine]

Enrique Peña Nieto, Justin Trudeau, and Barack Obama were literally all leaders a half-decade ago.

Saying this with the implication that any of these people are remotely left-wing is peak Blairism - specifically, the weird post-2007 becoming-a-cranky-Tory-in-retirement Blairism. When Tony Blair was in power, he was significantly to the left of all three of these. That is something both he and his current supporters, all five of them, seem to have forgotten.

They are all out of the respective political left wings of their own countries; ergo they are left wing.

Incorrect. Trudeau is the leader of Canada's centrist party. Almost a third of Canadians voted for a party to his left. Their policies may be vaguely centre-left (debatable), but they don't represent the left on Canada's political spectrum.

I don't know enough about Mexican politics, but I'm under the impression the same could be said about President Ken Doll.

Are you counting the current incarnation of the Bloc as part of that one third to the left of Trudeau's Liberals? That doesn't seem right.

The Bloc is a bit complicated, I admit - but other than their xenophobia, I can't think of very many issues where they are to the right of the Liberals.

Other than that Mrs. Kennedy, how was your trip to Dallas?

More seriously, under Blanchet's leadership, the Bloc Quebecois' primary emphasis has been on promoting anti-multiculturalism to a small town and outer-suburban base against a Liberal Party which primarily represents the largest, most diverse city in the region. If we dropped that into any other context, we'd recognize that as rightist or even far right politics. The fact that the Bloc is somewhat to the left of Trudeau on social housing or gun rights is secondary to that multiculturalism divide.

[Former President tack50]

More seriously, under Blanchet's leadership, the Bloc Quebecois' primary emphasis has been on promoting anti-multiculturalism to a small town and outer-suburban base against a Liberal Party which primarily represents the largest, most diverse city in the region. If we dropped that into any other context, we'd recognize that as rightist or even far right politics. The fact that the Bloc is somewhat to the left of Trudeau on social housing or gun rights is secondary to that multiculturalism divide.

So TL;DR, the Bloc Quebecois is unironically #populist ?

Tbh I would say that the social housing and gun rights arguments (or others like you know, taxation, social aid and what not) would trump being against multiculturalism and what not.

[EvilSovereign]

They are all very different from each other, esp. Mexico. Lumping them into some broad "left wing" category is quite the generalization

[King of Kensington]

A lot of Canadian progressives and social democrats are gushing about how Biden is such a leftist compared to Trudeau.

[CumbrianLefty]

Arguably that's not too hard.

[Flyersfan232]

Bahamas have a right of centre government

[The Houstonian]

Has that ever happened before?

It still hasn't happened.