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« on: January 19, 2021, 11:18:43 PM »

With his populist credentials I think Ojeda would have improved on Biden in the rustbelt and Appalachia, while doing a little worse in the Sunbelt. Maybe 303-205 (+IA/OH -AZ/GA). What does Atlas think?
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2021, 11:22:09 PM »

Probably would've lost just due to lack of enthusiasm.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2021, 12:08:26 AM »

In order to be the nominee, Ojeda would have had to capture the hearts of the Democratic Party, so turnout and enthusiasm wouldn't be an issue. He should win with a similar map to Biden's.

Who here that voted for Biden wouldn't have voted for an Ojeda that managed to win the nomination?
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2021, 06:58:53 PM »

Ohio and Iowa wouldnt go for democrats under any scenario tbh. I doubt a former trump supporter turned democrat would do very well, low turnout and less enthusiasm along with some potential third party defections can make things bad.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2021, 07:18:43 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2021, 07:24:46 PM by Many Goddesses, No Masters »

In 2018 he lost WV-03 by 12.7%, while in 2020 Carol Miller won re-election by 42.6%. Assuming that he in his #populist glory were to overperform Generic D by 14.1% (the difference in his vote share in 2018 and WV-03 Dem Hilary Turner's last year) across every state covered by the Appalachian Regional Commission, he would win all of them, guaranteeing at least 169 EV. Adding every state won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 to these, we arrive at 349 EV. Even if he lost the other Biden states not included in either group (AZ, MI, and WI), this would be a landslide for the ages. All hail strong candidate Rich O!
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2021, 08:36:03 PM »

No Democrat would have lost AZ and GA while simultaneously winning IA and OH.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 12:10:14 PM »

Richard Ojeda isn't the future of the D party, but if Manchin does retire, he should run for his seat
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 01:20:29 PM »

Richard Ojeda isn't the future of the D party, but if Manchin does retire, he should run for his seat

Governor might be a better bet honestly. It's the only statewide West Virginia office I could see Democrats having a fighting chance of winning at this point.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 03:16:26 PM »

and if he did run for and win election as Governor I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that he'd run for president in 2028 or 32 even though I doubt he'd ever be in the top tier of candidates. Being on the VP shortlist isn't outside the realm of possibility in the same way I could definitely see Andy Beacher being considered as a possible runningmate for Harris in 2024 if he wins reelection.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 03:48:29 PM »

There's very little that Ojeda brings to the table that Biden didn't also bring. He would have done better in WV and the Ohio Valley, but not enough better to make any difference. Without Biden's strong connections with the Democratic establishment in the South, he wouldn't have won GA, and I don't really see him winning AZ, either.

He might have won, but it would have come down to very tight margins in WI and MI.
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