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« on: November 09, 2020, 09:12:55 AM »

If there is any hope for Florida Democrats in the future, the Democratic National Committee needs to sack the Florida Democratic Party and build a new & more component state party.

The old FDP is a useless money sink.

Yes, a new party might not be ready by 2022, but if the old FDP is still in-charge, the races are already over anyway.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2020, 12:18:34 PM »

This should have happened in 2018. These people are too entrenched to leave despite their many failures
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2020, 02:16:00 PM »

Dems neglect state parties even more when in the presidency and always need a savior to revive party infrastructure. In Texas that person was Beto and in Georgia Stacey Abrams. Dems never found someone in Florida and they will have to wait for the next Republican to hold the white house.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2020, 02:23:34 PM »

Why bother, Rubio and DeSantis are safe in a Biden midterm, but Scott is vulnerable in a Prez yr. Dems only have to wait til 2024 to get rid of SCOTT
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2020, 02:24:39 PM »

Dems neglect state parties even more when in the presidency and always need a savior to revive party infrastructure. In Texas that person was Beto and in Georgia Stacey Abrams. Dems never found someone in Florida and they will have to wait for the next Republican to hold the white house.
Eh the issue is that florida republicans aren't asleep at the wheel like texas and georgia republicans were.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2020, 02:30:09 PM »

Dems neglect state parties even more when in the presidency and always need a savior to revive party infrastructure.

I know Obama is Party Patron Saint and will be for the foreseeable future, but why did he take Howard Dean's 50-state program and throw it in a trashcan?

There's a lot more state parties that should be "sacked" alongside Florida.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2020, 03:39:55 PM »

I enjoy sh**tting on them as much as anyone... the problem is that political parties sadly have a self-destruct button.

Even if you sacked the senior leadership (didn't that happen after 2018?) the same people or group of people tend to rise back up through the ranks. It's a self repeating cycle
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2020, 05:45:56 PM »

I'd argue that they should have when they couldn't field anyone for FL-13 in 2014.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2020, 06:44:38 PM »

I'd argue that they should have when they couldn't field anyone for FL-13 in 2014.
Not sure how you're blaming this on the state party? The DCCC recruited a guy — special forces Col. Ed Jany — who seemed great on paper (military experience, born in Brazil, fluent Spanish & Portuguese speaker), but he didn't live in St. Pete and quickly dropped out after the local paper dug into his background. The chairman of the county party encouraged another Democratic candidate to drop out to clear the field, which was not a great move in hindsight, but was justified at the time as clearing the field for the DCCC's guy.

Blame here goes, in roughly equal measures, to Steve Israel (for recruiting this guy) and Mark Hanisee (the county party chair who encouraged Rev. Sykes to drop out of the race). But Israel has retired and Hanisee was defeated in 2014, so I'm not sure what more you want done, or why you're assigning blame to the FDP at all here.

More broadly, it is very easy in these types of threads to present broad calls to action ("burn down the FDP") but very difficult to outline exactly what you think should be done differently. The state party will almost certainly go through all the motions people in this thread are calling for — electing a new chair, having some sort of post-election inquiry — just as they did in 2014, and 2016, and 2018. What exactly do you want them to do?
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2020, 07:03:47 PM »

I'd argue that they should have when they couldn't field anyone for FL-13 in 2014.
Not sure how you're blaming this on the state party? The DCCC recruited a guy — special forces Col. Ed Jany — who seemed great on paper (military experience, born in Brazil, fluent Spanish & Portuguese speaker), but he didn't live in St. Pete and quickly dropped out after the local paper dug into his background. The chairman of the county party encouraged another Democratic candidate to drop out to clear the field, which was not a great move in hindsight, but was justified at the time as clearing the field for the DCCC's guy.

Blame here goes, in roughly equal measures, to Steve Israel (for recruiting this guy) and Mark Hanisee (the county party chair who encouraged Rev. Sykes to drop out of the race). But Israel has retired and Hanisee was defeated in 2014, so I'm not sure what more you want done, or why you're assigning blame to the FDP at all here.

More broadly, it is very easy in these types of threads to present broad calls to action ("burn down the FDP") but very difficult to outline exactly what you think should be done differently. The state party will almost certainly go through all the motions people in this thread are calling for — electing a new chair, having some sort of post-election inquiry — just as they did in 2014, and 2016, and 2018. What exactly do you want them to do?

Fair enough. I don't quite remember that race all that well. I guess you'd know more about it than I do, lol.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2020, 08:56:08 PM »

Florida is just an always tilt right state. Not anyones fault, leave the FDP alone.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2020, 10:34:17 PM »

I’ll sign this petition, but only if ya’ll also sign my petition to restructure the PA Dems after completely and utterly blowing our downballot races.    Angry
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