Big Data Poll Michigan Biden +2 (questionable)

[tenyasha]

Biden 48.5
Trump 46.5

Peters 45
James 41.9
I am just providing this for the sake of interest, this is a very questionable polling firm, their google spread sheets are very annoying to deal with. Does anyone see any glaring major issues with is poll, the one thing that seems odd to me is the fact that Trump is getting about 15% of black voters here.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKLOEk3rgGU-PdYwjTJv4VjXKN5WZx9qH9lGb_IiDNE/edit#gid=1830716807

[philly09]

Big Data Poll strikes again. Right Wing Horsecrap.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

The issue I see is that they are literally banned by 538 for probably making up their data.

[tenyasha]

i always want to know how to tell that they are making up data, like what hints does 538 use to figure out?

[Devout Centrist]

"The New Gold Standard in Survey Research"

[tenyasha]

well i guess normal pollsters dont brag like that

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

i always want to know how to tell that they are making up data, like what hints does 538 use to figure out?

538 might keep that close to the chest.  Otherwise, it could make it easier for other polling firms that create data to conceal those actions (though I'm guessing it'd still be pretty obvious to them). 

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

i always want to know how to tell that they are making up data, like what hints does 538 use to figure out?

These are their stories from when they concluded that Strategic Vision was likely faking their data and banned them.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/strategic-vision/

[tenyasha]

What i noticed was that they always have a tight race with the undecided favoring republicans is that way too obvious of a pattern to almost always happen?

[Pericles]

If they're just going to make up the data anyway, why not show Trump and James ahead?

[DrScholl]

The name alone sounds suspicious. "Big Data"?

[soundchaser]

If they're just going to make up the data anyway, why not show Trump and James ahead?

Because they don’t actually think Trump will win — they want to show a close race but still be able to claim that they called the victor so next time we have an actually tight election they can claim this nonsense about being the Gold Standard™️ or whatever. See IBD/TIPP claiming they called 2016 correctly when they had Trump winning the popular vote.

(Not sure what Trafalgar’s excuse is other than delusion.)

[Stockdale for Veep]

Not to be confused with Bigly Information.

[TheLaRocca]

I mean this is closer to the final result then the NYT poll of Michigan lol.