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Nym90
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2004, 02:02:15 AM »

Ok....I admit I was a little confused by that, too. The article specifically says that it's used for roads and transportation though, so I'd tend to believe that.

I would imagine that Congress may have the authority to shift some of the funds around though if necessary.
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2004, 01:16:06 PM »

Weaning ourselves off of imported oil is - IMPOSSIBLE.  So we need to take the oil away from our enemies.

then, my good man, we need to learn how to pull it out of our asses.  according to the Colin Campbell model, oil production will peak about 2016 (when the first derivative of a plot of oil produced versus time becomes negative), according to the USGS, it will peak around 2040.  Whether it happens in five years or fifty, at some point in our very lives, we'll see the end of Cheap Oil.  It is possible that those 174 billion barrels of unconventional tar sands in western Canada may keep at bay the end of oil, but not the end of cheap oil, since the costs of extraction are high for that type.  No one really knows, but many of your tax dollars go to those people that your government deems "exerts" and that's what they're telling us.  If you don't believe them, fire them.  If you do, then beating up on the ragheads and camel jockeys is not a viable long-term solution.
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2004, 04:11:35 PM »

Weaning ourselves off of imported oil is - IMPOSSIBLE.  So we need to take the oil away from our enemies.

then, my good man, we need to learn how to pull it out of our asses.  according to the Colin Campbell model, oil production will peak about 2016 (when the first derivative of a plot of oil produced versus time becomes negative), according to the USGS, it will peak around 2040.  Whether it happens in five years or fifty, at some point in our very lives, we'll see the end of Cheap Oil.  It is possible that those 174 billion barrels of unconventional tar sands in western Canada may keep at bay the end of oil, but not the end of cheap oil, since the costs of extraction are high for that type.  No one really knows, but many of your tax dollars go to those people that your government deems "exerts" and that's what they're telling us.  If you don't believe them, fire them.  If you do, then beating up on the ragheads and camel jockeys is not a viable long-term solution.

OK then - Coal.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2004, 04:13:24 PM »

Weaning ourselves off of imported oil is - IMPOSSIBLE.  So we need to take the oil away from our enemies.

then, my good man, we need to learn how to pull it out of our asses.  according to the Colin Campbell model, oil production will peak about 2016 (when the first derivative of a plot of oil produced versus time becomes negative), according to the USGS, it will peak around 2040.  Whether it happens in five years or fifty, at some point in our very lives, we'll see the end of Cheap Oil.  It is possible that those 174 billion barrels of unconventional tar sands in western Canada may keep at bay the end of oil, but not the end of cheap oil, since the costs of extraction are high for that type.  No one really knows, but many of your tax dollars go to those people that your government deems "exerts" and that's what they're telling us.  If you don't believe them, fire them.  If you do, then beating up on the ragheads and camel jockeys is not a viable long-term solution.

OK then - Coal.

Coal powered cars and airplanes?
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2004, 05:10:08 PM »

Weaning ourselves off of imported oil is - IMPOSSIBLE.  So we need to take the oil away from our enemies.

then, my good man, we need to learn how to pull it out of our asses.  according to the Colin Campbell model, oil production will peak about 2016 (when the first derivative of a plot of oil produced versus time becomes negative), according to the USGS, it will peak around 2040.  Whether it happens in five years or fifty, at some point in our very lives, we'll see the end of Cheap Oil.  It is possible that those 174 billion barrels of unconventional tar sands in western Canada may keep at bay the end of oil, but not the end of cheap oil, since the costs of extraction are high for that type.  No one really knows, but many of your tax dollars go to those people that your government deems "exerts" and that's what they're telling us.  If you don't believe them, fire them.  If you do, then beating up on the ragheads and camel jockeys is not a viable long-term solution.

OK then - Coal.

Coal powered cars and airplanes?

Yeah, I guess we should save the remaining oil for airplane use, and then just generate electricity for electric cars by burning coal.
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« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2004, 02:00:25 PM »

according to the Colin Campbell model

Sidenote:

Hey, that's my name!
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