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« on: July 18, 2020, 02:41:35 PM »

It's crystal clear what Trump is doing here -the next time he cracks down on anyone exercising their constitutional rights (like the Lafayette Square Incident), he is going to make sure he has the full backing of the military behind him:

Trump skirting Congress to install loyalists in the Pentagon
Experts and Democratic lawmakers alike decried the campaign to root out those seen as disloyal and replace them with Trump acolytes.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2020, 06:02:52 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2020, 10:06:17 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2020, 10:59:42 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.
Does the Dump Administration or the RNC have your resume yet?
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2020, 11:12:50 PM »

Trump may be setting up to avoid leaving even if he loses. He has the Julius Caesar problem after all, he has very strong incentive not to.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2020, 01:20:10 AM »

Trump may be setting up to avoid leaving even if he loses. He has the Julius Caesar problem after all, he has very strong incentive not to.

My only consolation on that front is that when it comes to actual ability, Trump is more of a Nero or Caligula than a Caesar. While no outcome is certain, if I had to bet, I'd say the single most likely outcome is that he tries to stay in some stupid, ham-handed fashion that then gets backpedaled.

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2020, 10:16:03 AM »

Even if he loses and peacefully leaves office coming January, the damage of politicizing non-partisan institutions like the military, intel agencies, judiciary, FBI & police or the CDC (and many others, you name it) will be long term. It has never been healthy for any society to make said institution subject to political and partisan battles.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2020, 10:21:34 AM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

You opine as you are bundled into an unmarked van.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2020, 12:34:59 PM »

Given the... er... manner of the relationship between the Praetorians and the Emperor, would this really be such a clever idea?
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2020, 02:46:50 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.
Does the Dump Administration or the RNC have your resume yet?

Oh yes. He sent it in 2009.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2020, 02:48:38 PM »

Remember. This is completely acceptable because (checks notes) " socialism, antifa, and abortion".
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2020, 05:53:22 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

You're right, but this so much more brazen.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2020, 06:23:03 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

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This was based on the afore-mentioned Anti-Terrorism Act, but had been changed after negotiations and work between Attorney General Ashcroft, Senators Leahy, Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Bob Graham, Trent Lott (R-MS) and Orrin Hatch.

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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2020, 08:38:51 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.
Does the Dump Administration or the RNC have your resume yet?

Woke clapback Santander is one of my favorite iterations of Santander yet, second only to bicoastal liberal elitist Santander.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2020, 09:36:05 PM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

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This was based on the afore-mentioned Anti-Terrorism Act, but had been changed after negotiations and work between Attorney General Ashcroft, Senators Leahy, Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Bob Graham, Trent Lott (R-MS) and Orrin Hatch.



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2020, 12:29:23 AM »

This is one way to get the military to turn against one. The Armed Services are scrupulous in staying out of partisan politics. They will not do the dirty work of any political figure or any Party or clique thereof.

The Philippine Army turned against Ferdinand Marcos, and the Romanian Army turned against Ceausescu. Just a reminder to the President or anyone counseling him.
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2020, 01:54:40 AM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

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This was based on the afore-mentioned Anti-Terrorism Act, but had been changed after negotiations and work between Attorney General Ashcroft, Senators Leahy, Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Bob Graham, Trent Lott (R-MS) and Orrin Hatch.



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe

Ah yes, Buzzfeed, bastion of credible news and honesty.
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2020, 01:56:20 AM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

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This was based on the afore-mentioned Anti-Terrorism Act, but had been changed after negotiations and work between Attorney General Ashcroft, Senators Leahy, Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Bob Graham, Trent Lott (R-MS) and Orrin Hatch.



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe

Ah yes, Buzzfeed, bastion of credible news and honesty.

Biden bragged repeatedly about writing it. Lets stop pretending that Biden isn't total garbage.
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2020, 03:50:03 AM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

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This was based on the afore-mentioned Anti-Terrorism Act, but had been changed after negotiations and work between Attorney General Ashcroft, Senators Leahy, Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Bob Graham, Trent Lott (R-MS) and Orrin Hatch.



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe

Ah yes, Buzzfeed, bastion of credible news and honesty.

Biden bragged repeatedly about writing it. Lets stop pretending that Biden isn't total garbage.

I don't disagree but your "both sides" schtick is getting tiring as it seems to come up, coincidentally, only when Trump is criticized.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2020, 09:56:06 AM »

Four more years of Trump really might be scarier than we realize. I don't think it's being over-dramatic this time to describe him as"Fascist." The United States is morphing into an authoritarian state and it has to stop!

Let's not act like Trump is some sort of exception here. Biden's Patriot Act and Bush's endless wars that Obama added to have done much to advance authoritarianism.

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This was based on the afore-mentioned Anti-Terrorism Act, but had been changed after negotiations and work between Attorney General Ashcroft, Senators Leahy, Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Bob Graham, Trent Lott (R-MS) and Orrin Hatch.



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe

Ah yes, Buzzfeed, bastion of credible news and honesty.

Biden bragged repeatedly about writing it. Lets stop pretending that Biden isn't total garbage.

I don't disagree but your "both sides" schtick is getting tiring as it seems to come up, coincidentally, only when Trump is criticized.

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Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.

Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

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