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« on: June 20, 2020, 06:10:17 PM »

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-21/breaking3a-reports-three-stabbed-in-attack-in-uk/12377474

Fresh news out of Reading regarding a suspected radical Islamic terrorist attack.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-53123975
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2020, 04:50:10 AM »

The current police line is that they don't think the attack is related to terrorism.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2020, 05:35:19 AM »

That's just changed; they're now treating it as terrorism.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2020, 09:29:09 AM »

The suspect is apparently from Libya originally.

Perhaps the 10th anniversary of Gadaffi's fall there next year might be a good time to investigate the consequences that have ensued - lots of radicalised jihadis being one of them.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2020, 10:36:06 AM »
« Edited: June 21, 2020, 06:00:38 PM by Meclazine »

The UK must feel horrible after these constant terror stabbings.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-21/uk-police-park-stabbing-killed-three-terror-attack/12378422

I guess the Libyans dont embrace multi-culturalism like we expected them to.

The guy sliced throats and stabbed under the arms.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2020, 02:58:47 PM »

Thank you for your concern, which I'm sure we'll all accept in all the sincerity that it was offered.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2020, 03:05:34 PM »

The suspect is apparently from Libya originally.

Perhaps the 10th anniversary of Gadaffi's fall there next year might be a good time to investigate the consequences that have ensued - lots of radicalised jihadis being one of them.

Yes, although the presence of an Islamist sector from Libya and North Africa generally in Europe is something that predates the Arab Spring and the fall of Gadaffi.
For opponents of those "secular" dictatorships of North Africa, which tended/tend to be very Ideologically diverse from pro-western liberals to islamists, the only real option was emigration, and persuing their cause from Abroad. Many of those ended up in Europe, the more liberal and secular oriented ones, such as Moncef Marzouki for instance, tended to go to France, with its strong cultural and historical ties to the region.

But many of those with Islamist inclinations, such as Rached Ghannouchi or the family of the Manchester Bomber for instance, went to the UK, whose security services up to September 2001 essentially tolerated Islamists as long as they not cause trouble in the UK itself, even as the movement was becoming was becoming increasingly problematic on the Continent with the Paris Metro Bombings etc. (Frustration about this in the 90's among European intelligence services is where the 4Chan term "Londonistan" has its origin).

The perils with that became apparent after 9/11 and the 2005 London Bombings, of course, and since then things have changed, but it's the main reason why the UK still has a big problem with that specific sector as opposed to just Islamist tendencies from the subcontinent.
But to make some links here, we will need to know more about the attacker himself of course.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2020, 04:01:45 PM »

The fact that he was taken alive certainly helps here. He'll face a trial and an almost certain whole life term unless he can successfully claim insanity.
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2020, 06:21:49 PM »

The fact that he was taken alive certainly helps here. He'll face a trial and an almost certain whole life term unless he can successfully claim insanity.

He apparently has a criminal past, and was being "watched" by the authorities.

(though maybe not closely enough, unfortunately)
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2020, 07:45:34 AM »

And it now appears that at least 2 of the three dead were gay.

(unclear whether the killer was aware of this, however)
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2020, 02:43:13 PM »

And it now appears that at least 2 of the three dead were gay.

(unclear whether the killer was aware of this, however)

And it appears the attacker was perhaps a Christian convert.

This is why it's always important to give these sorts of things a few days.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2020, 08:09:24 AM »

And it now appears that at least 2 of the three dead were gay.

(unclear whether the killer was aware of this, however)

And it appears the attacker was perhaps a Christian convert.

This is why it's always important to give these sorts of things a few days.

There is no bigger inquisitor than the convert. I guess this still holds true.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2020, 10:30:15 AM »

And it now appears that at least 2 of the three dead were gay.

(unclear whether the killer was aware of this, however)

And it appears the attacker was perhaps a Christian convert.

This is why it's always important to give these sorts of things a few days.

Not confirmed yet, so "perhaps" is apposite.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2020, 03:04:50 PM »

Don't even have to change the title of the thread:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/scottish-police-shoot-man-dead-after-glasgow-stabbing-rampage/12399464

3 dead. RIP.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2020, 05:28:38 PM »

And it now appears that at least 2 of the three dead were gay.

(unclear whether the killer was aware of this, however)

And it appears the attacker was perhaps a Christian convert.

This is why it's always important to give these sorts of things a few days.

Why does this matter?

I'm sure you'll find Social Dems turned Nazi in the 40s, and if they did bad stuff under/as part of the Regime they should be remembered as Nazi scum, not Soc Dem converts lol
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2020, 06:13:51 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2020, 07:38:12 PM by Meclazine »

And it appears the attacker was perhaps a Christian convert.

This is why it's always important to give these sorts of things a few days.

Total BS.

A guy kills 3 innocent people by slicing their throats, stabbing them under their armpits to get to their heart and stabbing them through the eye sockets.

Might be a wild guess here, and I don't want to distract you from your narrative, but I doubt old mate was travelling back to Libya to train up to become a Catholic priest.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53129046

“He stabbed three of them, severely in the neck, and under the arms, and then turned and started running towards me, and we turned and started running. When he realised that he couldn’t catch us, he tried to stab another group sat down. He got one person in the back of the neck and then when he realised everyone was starting to run, he ran out the park.”

Brendan Healy, 55, gave CPR to another man while receiving instructions from medics over the phone, and described seeing another man who had apparently been stabbed in the eye. “There were people prostrate on the grass,” he said of the aftermath of the attack."



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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2020, 04:20:33 AM »


Not quite, "only" the perpetrator died. Though a police officer is quite poorly.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2020, 03:37:47 PM »

Not quite, "only" the perpetrator died. Though a police officer is quite poorly.

Great news. It said "3 Dead" initially in the story. Maybe they were lying on the ground not moving, and the media reported it wrong.

Strange circumstances in the UK.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2020, 07:10:44 AM »

Not quite, "only" the perpetrator died. Though a police officer is quite poorly.

Great news. It said "3 Dead" initially in the story. Maybe they were lying on the ground not moving, and the media reported it wrong.

Strange circumstances in the UK.

Garbled reporting in the immediate aftermath of these things is pretty normal, and certainly *not* unique to the UK. Arguably it again shows the need for news outlets to err on the side of caution, though.
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