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« on: February 27, 2020, 06:11:25 PM »

Fox national poll, conducted Feb. 23-26:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-february-23-26-2020

Sanders 31%
Biden 18%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 12%
Warren 10%
Klobuchar 5%
Steyer 2%
Gabbard 1%
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2020, 06:12:51 PM »

SWEET SASSY MOLASSY
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2020, 06:13:28 PM »

SWEET SASSY MOLASSY!  Old Joe better have that retirement home set up for him!
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2020, 06:15:08 PM »

I do find it interesting how much better Sanders seems to poll in national polls than in state polls.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2020, 06:17:28 PM »

If sanders is ahead by 13 nationally, shouldn’t he be down single digits in SC?
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2020, 06:18:50 PM »

If sanders is ahead by 13 nationally, shouldn’t he be down single digits in SC?
Some polls show that, others show him behind double digits. We'll have to see in a few days.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2020, 06:21:41 PM »

I do find it interesting how much better Sanders seems to poll in national polls than in state polls.
The State Polls are scewed towards Biden because of AA in the South. After Super Tuesday only GA, LA, MS are sure States for Biden and maybe Florida but that's it then.

Biden faces the same Dilemma IMO Cruz & Santorum faced in '12 & '16 trying to win the GOP Nomination with just Born-Again Christian Social Conservatives. It didn't work. That's why I BTW believe that a Social Conservative will never ever become the Republican Nominee.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2020, 06:22:02 PM »

The explanation for Sanders performing better in national polls than in state ones is that national polls are probably picking up surges in enclaves that are good for him, but might not actually have an oversized influence in some states.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2020, 06:22:56 PM »

If sanders is ahead by 13 nationally, shouldn’t he be down single digits in SC?

He lost the popular vote by 12% in 2016 and lost South Carolina by 48% so...
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2020, 06:23:04 PM »

men:
Sanders 30%
Bloomberg 23%
Biden 16%
Buttigieg 9%
Warren 6%

women:
Sanders 32%
Biden 20%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 13%
Bloomberg 12%

white w/ college degree:
Sanders 28%
Biden 16%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 11%

white w/ no college degree:
Sanders 35%
Biden 16%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 11%
Warren 8%

non-white:
Sanders 30%
Biden 22%
Bloomberg 17%
Warren 11%
Buttigieg 10%

urban:
Sanders 31%
Biden 18%
Bloomberg 16%

suburban:
Sanders 28%
Biden 20%
Bloomberg 19%

rural:
Sanders 35%
Biden 14%
Bloomberg 13%

Who would be your 2nd choice?
Biden 19%
Sanders 17%
Buttigieg 15%
Warren 15%
Bloomberg 12%
Klobuchar 7%

Are there any candidates you would refuse to support in the general election?
Bloomberg 18%
Sanders 18%
Biden 13%
Warren 13%
Gabbard 10%
Buttigieg 9%
Klobuchar 8%
Steyer 8%
no, they’re all good 45%
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2020, 06:24:05 PM »

If sanders is ahead by 13 nationally, shouldn’t he be down single digits in SC?
Maybe he is. Polls are over the Place in that State. Change & ECU have him down -4 and -8, the others double digits.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2020, 06:25:07 PM »

men:
Bloomberg 23%
Warren 6%

women:
Warren 13%
Bloomberg 12%

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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2020, 06:28:13 PM »

women:
Sanders 32%
Biden 20%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 13%
Bloomberg 12%

non-white:
Sanders 30%
Biden 22%
Bloomberg 17%
Warren 11%
Buttigieg 10%

white male berniebros smh
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2020, 06:53:17 PM »

suburban:
Sanders 28%
Biden 20%
Bloomberg 19%

Bernie Sanders, the candidate of choice of suburban voters.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2020, 06:58:21 PM »

B-b-but if you add up all of the not Sanders vote, it's 69%, so any moderate not Sanders candidate would hypothetically beat Sanders 69-31! Totally fair to deny Sanders the nomination at the convention if he's short of 50%!
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2020, 08:14:57 PM »

I do find it interesting how much better Sanders seems to poll in national polls than in state polls.

Something is off.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2020, 08:34:04 PM »

If sanders is ahead by 13 nationally, shouldn’t he be down single digits in SC?

Maybe, but Nate Silver has SC down as one of Sanders' worst five states going by demographics.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2020, 11:18:44 PM »

The explanation for Sanders performing better in national polls than in state ones is that national polls are probably picking up surges in enclaves that are good for him, but might not actually have an oversized influence in some states.

California is likely has a heavy thumb on the scale at this point, meaning it will dramatically distort national polling numbers ....
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2020, 11:49:57 PM »

men:
Sanders 30%
Bloomberg 23%
Biden 16%
Buttigieg 9%
Warren 6%

women:
Sanders 32%
Biden 20%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 13%
Bloomberg 12%

white w/ college degree:
Sanders 28%
Biden 16%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 11%

white w/ no college degree:
Sanders 35%
Biden 16%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 11%
Warren 8%

non-white:
Sanders 30%
Biden 22%
Bloomberg 17%
Warren 11%
Buttigieg 10%

urban:
Sanders 31%
Biden 18%
Bloomberg 16%

suburban:
Sanders 28%
Biden 20%
Bloomberg 19%

rural:
Sanders 35%
Biden 14%
Bloomberg 13%

Who would be your 2nd choice?
Biden 19%
Sanders 17%
Buttigieg 15%
Warren 15%
Bloomberg 12%
Klobuchar 7%

Are there any candidates you would refuse to support in the general election?
Bloomberg 18%
Sanders 18%
Biden 13%
Warren 13%
Gabbard 10%
Buttigieg 9%
Klobuchar 8%
Steyer 8%
no, they’re all good 45%


There are 3 groups where there has been huge shifts from Biden to Bernie.

Hispanics - Landslide lead from Bernie from narrow Biden lead
Whites W/o College - Huge huge shift (likely Midwest working class voters)
Rural - Another segment Biden was leading &.now Sanders is winning bigtime.

At this Biden only has the following groups left - Older Conservative/White voters (Above 55/60) & African American voters (Above 40). That is not enough to win the nomination.

Sanders is going to be gaining from Warren/Gabbard voters & Pete voters as there are many Bernie16/Pete20 supporters. There will be a bandwagon effect after Super Tuesday as well if Bernie ends up winning a lot of states.

I think among the groups Biden has lost - White working class, Hispanics & Rural voters - There could be further Biden to Bernie movement.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2020, 12:41:25 AM »

men:
Sanders 30%
Bloomberg 23%
Biden 16%
Buttigieg 9%
Warren 6%

women:
Sanders 32%
Biden 20%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 13%
Bloomberg 12%

white w/ college degree:
Sanders 28%
Biden 16%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 11%

white w/ no college degree:
Sanders 35%
Biden 16%
Bloomberg 16%
Buttigieg 11%
Warren 8%

non-white:
Sanders 30%
Biden 22%
Bloomberg 17%
Warren 11%
Buttigieg 10%

urban:
Sanders 31%
Biden 18%
Bloomberg 16%

suburban:
Sanders 28%
Biden 20%
Bloomberg 19%

rural:
Sanders 35%
Biden 14%
Bloomberg 13%

Who would be your 2nd choice?
Biden 19%
Sanders 17%
Buttigieg 15%
Warren 15%
Bloomberg 12%
Klobuchar 7%

Are there any candidates you would refuse to support in the general election?
Bloomberg 18%
Sanders 18%
Biden 13%
Warren 13%
Gabbard 10%
Buttigieg 9%
Klobuchar 8%
Steyer 8%
no, they’re all good 45%


There are 3 groups where there has been huge shifts from Biden to Bernie.

Hispanics - Landslide lead from Bernie from narrow Biden lead
Whites W/o College - Huge huge shift (likely Midwest working class voters)
Rural - Another segment Biden was leading &.now Sanders is winning bigtime.

At this Biden only has the following groups left - Older Conservative/White voters (Above 55/60) & African American voters (Above 40). That is not enough to win the nomination.

Sanders is going to be gaining from Warren/Gabbard voters & Pete voters as there are many Bernie16/Pete20 supporters. There will be a bandwagon effect after Super Tuesday as well if Bernie ends up winning a lot of states.

I think among the groups Biden has lost - White working class, Hispanics & Rural voters - There could be further Biden to Bernie movement.

You got some got points there Shadows....

Still trying to figure out who all these Bloomberg "supporters" that are mucking it up....

Agree generally with your assessment regarding gains among Sanders RE Warren/Pete voters (Although some of his supporters will go towards Biden)...

I still suspect you might possibly be underestimating the potential resurrection of Biden supporters in certain rural parts of the Country (MO Remington and a poll of Southern IL for example, combined with IA '20 DEM Caucus results), despite that overall in the US Biden looks to be performing among rural Whites, plus we have some recent polling examples that might argue to the contrary (For example today's MU Poll of WI)....

We should have a better idea after ST, since the major Battlegrounds of the Midwest are yet to come, where NTL polls by regions show Sanders with something like a +15% lead over Biden...
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2020, 12:41:57 AM »

The explanation for Sanders performing better in national polls than in state ones is that national polls are probably picking up surges in enclaves that are good for him, but might not actually have an oversized influence in some states.

How would that occur systematically?
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