Senate Extends Sunset Provisions in PATRIOT ACT; Only Feingold Votes Nay
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« on: February 04, 2006, 07:46:36 PM »

The Senate just voted to amend the PATRIOT Act so that the sunset provisions expire later for some sections of the act.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00011

95-1.  Feingold votes Nay.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 07:50:40 PM »
« Edited: February 04, 2006, 07:59:04 PM by Governor TCash »

I rarely agree with Mary Matalin, but a few weeks ago she made the prediction that Feingold and Warner would sqwueeze Hillary from both sides and her campaign would lose. This makes that much more likely. Warner's appeal being an outsider more than being a moderate.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2006, 07:51:11 PM »

Only a 5 week extension. (I knew there had to be some good reason Boxer voted AYE)
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2006, 07:51:29 PM »

Whatever you think of Feingold, you have to hand it to him: he really does stick to his guns.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2006, 07:52:13 PM »


Well, thats not too bad.  I'm just surprised that there was any extension at all without the media covering it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2006, 07:53:37 PM »

Whatever you think of Feingold, you have to hand it to him: he really does stick to his guns.

Yes, he definitely has the most integrity of any US Senator.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2006, 08:01:15 PM »

Whatever you think of Feingold, you have to hand it to him: he really does stick to his guns.

Yes, but his guns all have trigger locks.

Man, even Boxer voted Yea.  And Kerry.  And Kennedy.

There are several contraversial sections in the Patriot Act, but much of it is much-needed reforms that even the ACLU supports.  To let the entire act expire would be very irresponcible.  This demonstrates Feingold's inability to lead on national security, which should kill his chances of becoming president.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2006, 08:07:17 PM »
« Edited: February 04, 2006, 08:10:35 PM by jfern »

Whatever you think of Feingold, you have to hand it to him: he really does stick to his guns.

Yes, but his guns all have trigger locks.

Man, even Boxer voted Yea.  And Kerry.  And Kennedy.

There are several contraversial sections in the Patriot Act, but much of it is much-needed reforms that even the ACLU supports.  To let the entire act expire would be very irresponcible.  This demonstrates Feingold's inability to lead on national security, which should kill his chances of becoming president.

There are other options than the 2 you are presenting.

At least Feingold didn't ignore an August 6th, 2001 memo titled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US"
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2006, 08:14:57 PM »

Whatever you think of Feingold, you have to hand it to him: he really does stick to his guns.

Yes, but his guns all have trigger locks.

Man, even Boxer voted Yea.  And Kerry.  And Kennedy.

There are several contraversial sections in the Patriot Act, but much of it is much-needed reforms that even the ACLU supports.  To let the entire act expire would be very irresponcible.  This demonstrates Feingold's inability to lead on national security, which should kill his chances of becoming president.

There are other options than the 2 you are presenting.

Other than to extend it or not extend it?  Like what, write a revised Patriot Act and push it through Congress in a few hours?  The Act was set to expire Friday.  The extention was Thursday.  The only choices were to extend or to do without until a new law could be passed.

Even the ACLU, in a press release, supports making "modest" changes during the extention, rather than letting the Act expire.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2006, 09:34:44 PM »

Yes, but his guns all have trigger locks.

Man, even Boxer voted Yea.  And Kerry.  And Kennedy.

There are several contraversial sections in the Patriot Act, but much of it is much-needed reforms that even the ACLU supports.  To let the entire act expire would be very irresponcible.  This demonstrates Feingold's inability to lead on national security, which should kill his chances of becoming president.

I wasn't really arguing that Feingold's position was a good one, only that he's very consistent, a rarity among those in DC.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2006, 11:59:24 PM »

Russ has been consistant on the Patriot Act since October 2001, and it doesn't appear to have hurt him in Wisconsin.

Like a lot of pretty good figures, he probably doesn't have much of a shot of winning the Presidency.

Although, when it comes to guns, Russ seems pretty moderate there.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2006, 03:39:01 AM »

Feingold has stuck to his guns on this one fron the start.  he is not against ammending it, in fact favors it, but has a real problem with the current Patriot Act (chich many people do including some Republicans.  The fact this thing was already extended once and we made no headway on actually ammending & fixing this bill probably had alot to do with his no vote.  Basically to show the imporance of getting this done & fixed ASAP rather than just extending it & extending it without making any headway
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2006, 07:04:50 AM »

Whatever you think of Feingold, you have to hand it to him: he really does stick to his guns.

Yes, he definitely has the most integrity of any US Senator.

So true jfern!  Which makes me worry about him quite a bit - the last Senator with integrity was killed in a suspicious airplane accident.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2006, 11:24:12 AM »

So true jfern!  Which makes me worry about him quite a bit - the last Senator with integrity was killed in a suspicious airplane accident.

John Heinz?  Yes, it was suspicious how he was killed not long after Teresa met John Kerry.  And then Teresa used her inheritance to fund the campaigns of her new husband.  Makes you think.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2006, 02:02:43 PM »

So true jfern!  Which makes me worry about him quite a bit - the last Senator with integrity was killed in a suspicious airplane accident.

John Heinz?

I thought he meant Paul Wellstone.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2006, 03:11:29 PM »

He's talking about Paul Wellstone, obviously.
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