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« on: December 30, 2019, 03:19:41 AM »



Still it's not all good new, soccer moms still don't like the Donald ''suburban women (41% at least somewhat approve/56% at least somewhat disapprove).''
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2019, 03:20:07 AM »

LOL
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2019, 03:22:28 AM »


Well, it's just one poll, but I don't see why this poll should be taken less seriously than the ones which have Biden winning the PV by double digits.

By the way here is the link : https://t.co/jOi9xeIeKc
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2019, 04:43:08 AM »

It's pretty interesting how after their Biden +17 poll in October, the ABC/Wash Post poll only came out with Trump impeachment numbers this month and didn't even ask about his approval or H2H. The NBC poll asked about Trump approval but for some weird reason didn't ask H2H. In December of 2015, we had 13 H2H polls, 4 were Rasmussen so one can say there 10 H2H polls taking the 4 Rasmussen ones as 1, in December of 2019 there have only been 7, a testament perhaps to the decline of polling.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2019, 06:49:45 AM »

I doubt it
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2019, 09:00:50 AM »

Zogby is an infamously bad pollster... but infamously-bad pollsters can be right on occasion. We are going to get little real news until a little more than a week from now, when the first polls of the year 2020 are released.

The one thing of which we can all be certain is that Donald Trump and his political allies will stop at nothing to win. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2019, 09:04:36 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2019, 09:14:45 AM »

I see Zogby is still polling alternate universes.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2019, 09:44:09 AM »

Throw anything Zogby posts in the trash.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2019, 09:46:23 AM »

Trump's numbers against Biden, Bloomberg, and Sanders are well within the margin of error. A different sample from the same population could have Trump losing by 2-3.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2019, 09:47:32 AM »



Still it's not all good new, soccer moms still don't like the Donald ''suburban women (41% at least somewhat approve/56% at least somewhat disapprove).''

I love how the mainstream media treats this demographic like it's the most important thing in the world meanwhile Trump can lose them by 15 points and be fine. They just like it because it suits their narrative of the #Resistance.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2019, 12:54:23 PM »

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Among the important swing voters the race continues to be a see saw: Trump is winning with Independents (Trump leads 41% to 40%), consumer blocs-NASCAR fans (Trump leads 59% to 34%), weekly Walmart shoppers (Trump leads 52% to 37%), weekly Amazon shoppers (Trump leads 51% to 45%) and the most vulnerable voters-lost a job (Trump leads 52% to 38%), afraid of losing a job (both at 46%), at a job that pays less (Trump leads 48% to 42%), gone without food for 24 hours (Trump leads 47% to 43%).
What the hell is this?!
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2019, 01:04:47 PM »

Zogby is an infamously bad pollster... but infamously-bad pollsters can be right on occasion. We are going to get little real news until a little more than a week from now, when the first polls of the year 2020 are released.

The one thing of which we can all be certain is that Donald Trump and his political allies will stop at nothing to win. 

Oh God, is it seriously almost 2020?
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2019, 01:53:38 PM »

The good news in this poll is that Biden numbers has come down, and Buttigieg and Bernie are right where Biden is, against Trump; subsequently, Biden isnt the most electable one. This poll is within the margin of error and Trump has never been outside the margin of error against Ds. That's a good thing. I rate Trump chances as the same as Bush W, without the Bin Laden video.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2019, 06:06:25 PM »

Well, it's just one poll, but I don't see why this poll should be taken less seriously than the ones which have Biden winning the PV by double digits.

A reason for it to be taken less seriously is the fact that it is a Zogby poll. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it is incorrect, it is reasonable to take it less seriously for that reason.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2019, 02:43:27 AM »

Well, it's just one poll, but I don't see why this poll should be taken less seriously than the ones which have Biden winning the PV by double digits.

A reason for it to be taken less seriously is the fact that it is a Zogby poll. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it is incorrect, it is reasonable to take it less seriously for that reason.

I don't really care about the name of the pollster, frankly Quinnipiac has a pretty horrible record over the 2016/2018 election cycles and many people continue to believe their polls.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2019, 04:34:42 AM »

Well, it's just one poll, but I don't see why this poll should be taken less seriously than the ones which have Biden winning the PV by double digits.

A reason for it to be taken less seriously is the fact that it is a Zogby poll. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it is incorrect, it is reasonable to take it less seriously for that reason.

I don't really care about the name of the pollster, frankly Quinnipiac has a pretty horrible record over the 2016/2018 election cycles and many people continue to believe their polls.

As long as you have established a good reputation as a pollster even if you keep releasing horribly inaccurate polls it doesn't matter because people will still take you seriously, just look at NBC/Marist last cycle or the Fox News polls.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2019, 10:10:43 AM »

Well, it's just one poll, but I don't see why this poll should be taken less seriously than the ones which have Biden winning the PV by double digits.

A reason for it to be taken less seriously is the fact that it is a Zogby poll. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it is incorrect, it is reasonable to take it less seriously for that reason.

I don't really care about the name of the pollster, frankly Quinnipiac has a pretty horrible record over the 2016/2018 election cycles and many people continue to believe their polls.

As long as you have established a good reputation as a pollster even if you keep releasing horribly inaccurate polls it doesn't matter because people will still take you seriously, just look at NBC/Marist last cycle or the Fox News polls.

Yeah, you’re right and this phenomenon is very unfortunate
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2020, 11:38:21 AM »

Makes sense. Zogby generally has Trump as moderately popular so it makes sense that they have him winning at the same level as W or Obama did.
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2020, 12:06:06 PM »


Well, it's just one poll, but I don't see why this poll should be taken less seriously than the ones which have Biden winning the PV by double digits.

By the way here is the link : https://t.co/jOi9xeIeKc


Neither should be taken seriously, so you're right.
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